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[Congressional Record: September 27, 2000 (Senate)]
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From the Congressional Record Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
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AMERICAN COMPETITIVENESS IN THE TWENTY-FIRST CENTURY ACT OF 2000--
RESUMED
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will report the pending business.
The senior assistant bill clerk read as follows:
A bill (S. 2045) to amend the Immigration and Nationality
Act with respect to H-1B nonimmigrant aliens.
Pending:
Lott (for Abraham) amendment No. 4177 (to the committee
substitute), in the nature of a substitute.
Lott amendment No. 4178 (to amendment No. 4177), of a
perfecting nature.
Lott (for Conrad) amendment No. 4183 (to the text of the
bill proposed to be stricken), to exclude certain ``J'' non-
immigrants from numerical limitations applicable to ``H-1B''
non-immigrants.
Lott amendment No. 4201 (to amendment No. 4183), in the
nature of a substitute.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Iowa.
Mr. HARKIN. Parliamentary inquiry. I understand we are now under
cloture and each Senator is recognized for up to 1 hour to speak.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Each Senator has a maximum of 1 hour.
Mr. HARKIN. Mr. President, I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Democratic leader.
Mr. DASCHLE. Mr. President, I appreciate very much the willingness on
the part of the Senator from Iowa to give me an opportunity to make
some remarks with regard to where we are on the legislation.
Yesterday's vote demonstrates clearly that there is strong bipartisan
support in the Senate for increasing the number of visas for high-
skilled workers. On that point, Democrats and Republicans agree, but
there is a stark disagreement between our parties on the issue of
fairness to immigrants.
Republicans do not want to acknowledge this; they do not want to
admit that they oppose the Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act. That is
why they have gone to such extraordinary lengths to try to avoid having
to take a public position on it. There is an election coming up, and
they do not want to have to explain to Latino and immigrant groups why
they told thousands of hard-working immigrants who are in this country
doing essential jobs: Go home. Republicans would rather risk not
delaying the passage of the H-1B visa bill than vote for the Latino and
Immigrant Fairness Act or risk the political consequences of voting
against it.
There is really no reason we cannot pass both a strong H-1B bill and
the Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act.
We are in the longest period of economic expansion in our Nation's
history. We all know that now. The census numbers which were released
yesterday confirm once again the remarkable progress we have made in
recent years.
In the last 7 years, we have seen 20 million new jobs. Unemployment
is lower now than it has been in 30 years. In my State of South Dakota,
the jobless rate is between 2 and 3 percent.
Ten years ago, many companies could not expand because they could not
get the capital. Today they can get the capital, but they cannot get
the workers.
Clearly, one of the industries hardest hit by today's skilled-worker
shortage is the information technology industry. According to a recent
survey of almost 900 IT executives, nearly 10 percent of IT service and
support positions in this country--268,740 jobs--are unfilled today
because there are not enough skilled workers in this country to fill
them.
The H-1B visa program was supposed to prevent such shortages, but it
cannot because it has not kept pace with the growth in our economy.
This year, in fact, the H-1B program reached its ceiling of 115,000
visas in less than 6 months. That is why my colleagues and I support
substantially increasing the number of visas available under the H-1B
program.
The high-tech industry, however, is not the only industry struggling
with worker shortages. The Federal Reserve Board has said repeatedly
that there are widespread shortages of essential workers all through
the United States. All across America, restaurants, hotels, and nursing
homes are in desperate need of help. Widespread labor shortages in
these industries also pose a very significant threat to our economy.
That is one reason my colleagues and I introduced the Latino and
Immigrant Fairness Act earlier this year and why we wanted to offer
that legislation as an amendment to this measure.
The changes in our proposal are pro-business and certainly pro-
family. They are modest, and they are long overdue. We have talked
about them before, but let me just, again for the Record, make sure
people are clear as to what it is we want to do.
First, we want to establish legal parity for all Central American and
Caribbean refugees. That is not too much to ask. Why is it we treat
refugees from some countries differently from refugees from other
countries? All we are asking for is parity.
Second, we want to update the registry so that immigrants who have
been in this country since before 1986, who have worked hard and played
by the rules, will remain here permanently and will have the ability to
remain here legally.
We want to restore section 245(i) of the Immigration Act so that a
person who is in this country and on the verge of becoming a legal
resident can remain here while he or she completes the process. Why
would we want to send somebody back to the country they fled--someone
who is eligible to be a legal resident--just so they can come back here
again? If we do not change the law, that is exactly what will happen,
forcing these immigrants to pay thousands of dollars, disrupt their
lives, and maybe imperil their opportunity to come back at all.
Finally, we want to adjust the status of the Liberians who fled to
America when Liberia was plunged into a horrific civil war. Thousands
of them live in the State of the current Presiding Officer. Our Nation
gave these families protected immigrant status which allowed them to
stay in the United States but preempted their asylum claims. Instead of
forcing them to return to Liberia, a nation our Government warns
Americans to avoid because it is so dangerous even today, our bill will
give them the opportunity to become legal residents. That is all it
would do.
Earlier this month, a coalition of 31 associations--the U.S. Chamber
of Commerce, the American Health Care Association, the National
Restaurant Association, the National Retail Federation, and about 28
more--all came together and said: If there is something you do before
the end of this year, now that we have PNTR finished, we hope you can
pass the restoration of Section 245(i) and these other reasonable
immigration provisions.
It is the only fair thing to do, and it is good business. We need
this done. That is the message from the Chamber of Commerce and the
American Retail Federation sent. The American economy is growing not in
spite of immigrant workers, but with their help. That is one reason we
should pass the Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act now.
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There is another reason. President Roosevelt once said: ``We are a
nation of immigrants.'' We are also a nation that values families. This
principle is not relegated to one ethnic group. Whether you are African
American, European American, Latino American, or Asian American, we
value family. That is important to us. If we do not pass the provisions
in our proposal, thousands of immigrant parents of American-born
children will face an excruciating choice. If they are told to leave
this country, should they defy the law so that they can remain with
their American-citizen children or should they leave their children
here in the hope that others will care for them? Forcing choices like
this is simply antithetical to our commitment to family values.
I have heard all the speeches in the Senate Chamber about protecting
family, doing what is best for family, trying to ensure that families
stay together. We are concerned about what children watch on
television. But for Heaven's sake, if we care what they watch on
television, we ought to decide right now where we want them to watch
television. Children ought to be watching television here with their
families.
That is the choice: Should they leave their children here and hope
that others care for them, or should they take their children back to
nations that are mired in poverty and torn by violence or both?
Surely, those are not the kinds of choices we should force on people
who have lived in this country and played by the rules for years. That
is not the way we should treat people who have done the essential jobs
that others did not want, particularly today when we need their labor
so desperately.
My colleagues and I strongly support the H-1B visa bill. On that
there can be no doubt, especially after yesterday's vote. But we are
deeply disturbed and disappointed that the majority has refused to
allow us to offer the Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act or any other
amendment on this bill. Once again we have been refused the right to
offer even one amendment to the bill.
I have offered the majority leader many opportunities. I suggested
five and five. I suggested that they have five amendments, that we have
five amendments, that we limit them in terms of time and second degree
amendments because we wanted to get this bill done. I heard the
allegation that: No, Democrats just want to slow down the process, the
deliberation, the consideration of the H-1B bill; they don't want it to
pass.
Our answer to that, you saw yesterday. We want it to pass. That is
why I offered a limit on amendments, why I offered a limit on time, why
I offered almost any formula you could come up with so that we could
accommodate both.
Let's pass H-1B, but for Heaven's sake, with 2 weeks left, let's pass
the Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act as well. Once again we have been
refused the right to offer even one amendment to the bill. Once again
we are told: Do it our way, or we are not going to do it at all. This
is not how this body should operate. Offering amendments and voting on
them does not kill bills, it strengthens them, and it strengthens this
Senate.
Why are our Republican colleagues so determined not even to let us
discuss our amendment? They are the majority. If they believe our
proposal is misguided, they can vote it down, they can table it. They
can do anything they want to. They have the votes. Why won't they allow
that vote? What are they so afraid of?
We are pleased we are finally on the verge of passing this
legislation and increasing the number of H-1B visas. But we are
disappointed by the disdain the majority has shown for this Senate and
its tradition of fair and open debate. We are even more disturbed by
the indifference they are showing to thousands--tens of thousands--of
decent, hard-working families who are looking forward to the time when
they can live here in freedom and peace, and with confidence that their
families can stay together.
I am disappointed. I am frustrated, once again, that we have not had
an opportunity to have the voice, to have the input, to have the
opportunity that any Senator should count as his right or her right to
participate fully in debate. But we have been precluded by the rules of
the Senate imposed upon us in this case by the majority.
The rules in the Senate, of course, allow for free and open debate,
allow for amendment, allow for unlimited debate and discussion. The
majority continues to insist on bending the rules so that they can
constrain the way we pass legislation and which issues will be heard,
without regard to the rights of all Senators to have their voices
heard.
Motion To Suspend Rule XXII
So, Mr. President, as my statement in yesterday's Record indicated, I
now move to suspend rule XXII to permit the consideration of amendment
No. 4184.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The motion is debatable.
Mr. GREGG addressed the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from New Hampshire.
Mr. GREGG. Mr. President, I appreciate the Democratic leader's
comments and the sincerity of those comments. But I think a few points
should be made in response to them. Then I will make a unanimous
consent request relative to the motion which has been put forward by
the Democratic leader.
The first point is that the rules of the Senate are being followed.
The Democratic leader knows the rules a great deal better than I do.
But the vote on cloture yesterday, to which the Democratic leader on a
number of occasions has alluded to represent the Democratic leader's
commitment to the H-1B proposal, is the vote which puts the Democratic
leader in the position that he is in now, which is that the amendment
he is offering is not relevant and not germane to the underlying bill.
So, as a practical matter, for him to first claim that, with great
enthusiasm, they voted for cloture but now they are being foreclosed
under the rules of the Senate from doing what they want to do is, I
think, crocodile tears.
Secondly, it appears at about this time every election cycle we see a
movement that occurs from this administration which involves bypassing
the usual and legal procedures for obtaining citizenship.
Citizenship is the most sacred item of trust that we can impart as a
nation to someone who wishes to come to our shores and live. The
granting of citizenship is an extraordinary action because it gives a
person the right to live in our Nation--the greatest nation on Earth--
and the capacity to vote and participate as a full citizen and to raise
a family here as a citizen. So it is something where we have set up a
fairly significant and intricate set of laws in order to develop a
process so there is fairness in how we apply citizenship.
Yet every election year, during this administration, or at least for
the last two major election years--especially Presidential election
years--we have seen an attempt, basically, to set aside the law as it
is structured for purposes of obtaining citizenship, and to create a
new class of citizens independent of what is present law.
To say that people shall be given the imprimatur of citizenship just
before the election, ironically--and the last time this occurred under
Citizenship USA, which was the title given to it, a title which was
truly inappropriate because it ended up being ``Felony USA,'' thousands
of people were given citizenship outside of the usual course. They did
not have to go through the usual process, in a rush to complete
citizenship prior to the election, which led to literally thousands of
people who ended up being felons and criminals receiving citizenship.
We are still trying to track down many of the felons who received
citizenship under Citizenship USA, which was the last aggressive
attempt to bypass the citizenship laws of this country during an
election year.
I think we should have learned our lesson from that little exercise,
that attempt at political initiative for the purposes of political
gain, which ended up costing us literally millions of dollars to try to
correct and leave us with, fortunately, a number of good citizens but,
unfortunately, a number of people who should never have gotten
citizenship who are literally felons and who have committed serious
crimes.
So this attempt to bypass the citizenship process must be looked at
with a certain jaundiced eye in light of the fact it is an election
year because there is a history which asserts that it
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should be viewed with a jaundiced eye, because the Citizen USA was such
a debacle and so grossly political and ended up costing our Nation so
dearly, by giving the sacred right of citizenship to people who are
criminals and who committed lawless acts against other citizens.
So that is why we are in this position today.
The Democratic leadership claims that they strongly support H-1B and
so they voted for cloture. Then they come forward and claim: But the
rules are limiting us.
They were the ones who voted for the rule that happens to be limiting
them. They can't have it both ways, but they appear to want to. It is,
as I said, crocodile tears on their part, in my opinion. However, the
Democratic leader has the right to make this request. He has positioned
himself procedurally in that order.
Therefore, I ask unanimous consent that a vote occur on the pending
motion to suspend the rules, that the vote occur today at 4 o'clock,
and that the time between the two sides until 4 o'clock be equally
divided in the usual form.
Mr. REID. Reserving the right to object, Mr. President, I was
diverted by talking to someone else. Will the Senator restate the
unanimous consent request?
Mr. GREGG. I ask unanimous consent that a vote occur today on the
pending motion to suspend the rule at 4 o'clock and that the time
between now and 4 o'clock be equally divided in the usual form.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from New Hampshire has the floor.
Mr. REID. I object.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection is heard.
Mr. GREGG. I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. HARKIN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. HARKIN. Mr. President, I yield whatever time I have remaining
under cloture on the bill to the minority leader, Senator Daschle.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator has that right.
Mr. HARKIN. I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. LEAHY. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. LEAHY. Mr. President, I regret how little progress we were able
to make yesterday on legislation to increase the number of H-1B visas.
This legislation was reported from the Judiciary Committee more than a
half a year ago. I have advocated that it receive a fair hearing and
that the Senate vote to increase the number of H-1B visas.
I have also said we should take up other important immigration
matters that have been neglected for too long in this body. But those
requests have fallen on deaf ears, as yesterday once again
demonstrated. Senators Daschle and Reid have offered to spend only 10
minutes debating immigration amendments. Under those terms, we could
complete action on this bill in well under a day. But the majority
apparently would rather see this process continue to drag on than take
a simple up-or-down vote on matters of critical importance to the
Latino community and other immigrant groups. Indeed, this bill has been
more strictly controlled than any bill during this Congress. At a
certain point one cannot help but ask: What is the majority afraid of?
We ought to vote up or down on the Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act.
I don't say this from any parochial interest. We do not have any
significant minority ethnic group in Vermont. We are sort of unique in
that regard. But all Vermonters, Republican and Democrat alike, believe
in fairness. It is a matter of fairness to have the Latino and
Immigrant Fairness Act voted on. Let us vote it up or vote it down. I
will vote for it. I am a cosponsor of it. I strongly support it.
The chairman of the Judiciary Committee complained yesterday that the
Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act was not introduced until July, and
that the Democrats were pressing for action on the bill even though it
had no hearings. As the chairman must know, the Latino and Immigrant
Fairness Act brings together a number of proposals that have been
talked about since the very beginning of this Congress, and in some
cases for years before that. Indeed, the current proposal is drawn from
S. 1552, S. 1592, and S. 2668. And as the chairman also must recognize,
these proposals have been denied hearings in the Judiciary Committee he
chairs and the Immigration subcommittee that Senator Abraham chairs.
For the chairman to point to the lack of hearings on these proposals as
an excuse to derail them reminds me of the person on trial for killing
his parents who throws himself on the mercy of the court as an orphan.
Meanwhile, I am encouraged by the majority leader's conciliatory
words on the substance of the LIFA proposals. According to today's
Congress Daily, the majority leader has said that he thought the
proposals ``could be wrapped in such a way that I could be for it.'' I
hope this signals that he will work with us to find a way to have a
vote on these issues.
Let me be clear: I support increasing the number of H-1B visas and
voted for S. 2045 in the Judiciary Committee. I have hoped that our
consideration of this bill would allow us to achieve other crucially
important immigration goals that have been neglected by the majority
throughout this Congress. I have hoped that the majority could agree to
at least vote on--if not vote for--limited proposals designed to
protect Latino families and other immigrant families. I have hoped that
the majority would consider proposals to restore the due process that
was taken away from immigrants by the immigration legislation Congress
passed in 1996. In short, I thought we could work together to restore
some of America's lost luster on immigration issues. Since the majority
has thus far been unwilling to do that, pro-immigration Senators have
been faced with a choice between achieving one of our many goals or
achieving nothing at all.
Like most of my Democratic colleagues, I agree that we need to
increase the number of H-1B visas. The stunning economic growth we have
experienced in the past eight years has led to worker shortages in
certain key areas of our economy. Allowing workers with specialized
skills to come to the United States and work for a 6-year period--as an
H-1B visa does--helps to alleviate those shortages. In the current
fiscal year, 115,000 H-1B visas were available. These visas ran out
well before the fiscal year ended. If we do not change the law, there
will actually be fewer visas available next year, as the cap drops to
107,500. This will simply be insufficient to allow America's
employers--particularly in the information technology industry--to
maintain their current rates of growth. As such, I think that we need
to increase the number of available visas dramatically. I think that S.
2045 is a valuable starting point, although it can and should be
improved through the amendment process.
I have been involved in helping to ease America's labor shortage for
some time. Last year, I cosponsored the HITEC Act, S. 1645, legislation
that Senator Robb has introduced that would create a new visa that
would be available to companies looking to hire recent foreign
graduates of U.S. master's and doctoral programs in math, science,
engineering, or computer science. I believe that keeping such bright,
young graduates in the United States should be the primary purpose of
any H-1B legislation we pass. By concentrating on such workers, we can
address employers' needs for highly-skilled workers, while also
limiting the number of visas that go to foreign workers with less
specialized skills.
Of course, H-1B visas are not a long-term answer to the current
mismatch between the demands of the high-tech industry and the supply
of workers with technical skills. Although I believe that there is a
labor shortage in certain areas of our economy, I do not
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believe that we should accept that circumstance as an unchangeable fact
of life. We need to make a greater effort to give our children the
education they need to compete in an increasingly technology-oriented
economy, and offer our adults the training they need to refashion their
careers to suit the changes in our economy. This bill goes part of the
way toward improving our education and training programs, but could do
better.
Although I have said that this is not a perfect bill, there are a few
provisions within it that should be retained in any final version. I
strongly support the increased portability this legislation offers for
visa holders, making it easier for them to change jobs within the
United States. And the legislation extends the labor attestation
requirements in the bill--which force employers to certify that they
were unable to find qualified Americans to do a job that they have
hired a visa recipient to fill--as well as the Labor Department's
authority to investigate possible H-1B violations.
It is regrettable that it has taken so long for us to turn our
attention to the H-1B issue. The Judiciary Committee reported S. 2045
more than six months ago. It has taken us a very long time to get from
point A to point B, and it has often appeared that the majority has
been more interested in gaining partisan advantage from a delay than in
actually making this bill law.
The Democratic leader has said month after month that we would be
willing to accept very strict time limits on debating amendments, and
would be willing to conduct the entire debate on S. 2045 in less than a
day. Our leader has also consistently said that it is critical that the
Senate should take up proposals to provide parity for refugees from
right-wing regimes in Central America and to address an issue that has
been ignored for far too long--how we should treat undocumented aliens
who have lived here for decades, paying taxes and contributing to our
economy. These provisions are both contained in the Latino and
Immigrant Fairness Act. I joined in the call for action on H-1B and
other critical immigration issues, but our efforts were rebuffed by the
majority.
Indeed, months went by in which the majority made no attempt to
negotiate these differences, time which many members of the majority
instead spent trying to blame Democrats for the delay in their bringing
this legislation to the floor. At many times, it seemed that the
majority was more interested in casting blame upon Democrats than in
actually passing legislation. Instead of working in good faith with the
minority to bring this bill to the floor, the majority spent its time
trying to convince leaders in the information technology industry that
the Democratic Party is hostile to this bill and that only Republicans
are interested in solving the legitimate employment shortages faced by
many sectors of American industry. Considering that three-quarters of
the Democrats on the Judiciary Committee voted for this bill, and that
the bill has numerous Democratic cosponsors, including Senator
Lieberman, this partisan appeal was not only inappropriate but absurd
on its face.
Finally, a few weeks ago, the majority made a counteroffer that did
not provide as many amendments as we would like, but which did allow
amendments related to immigration generally. We responded
enthusiastically to this proposal, but individual members of the
majority objected, and there is still no agreement to allow general
immigration amendments. At least some members of the majority are
apparently unwilling even to vote on issues that are critical to
members of the Latino community. This is deeply unfortunate, and leaves
those of us who are concerned about humanitarian immigration issues
with an uncomfortable choice. We can either address the legitimate
needs of the high-tech industry in the vacuum that the majority has
imposed, or we can refuse to proceed on this bill until the majority
affords us the opportunity to address other important immigration
needs. I still hope that an agreement can be reached with the majority
that will allow votes on other important immigration matters as part of
our consideration of this bill, but I have little confidence that this
will happen.
I regret that we will likely be unable to offer other important
amendments to this bill. For much of the summer, the majority implied
that we were simply using the concerns of Latino voters as a
smokescreen to avoid considering S. 2045. Speaking for myself, although
I have had reservations about certain aspects of S. 2045, I voted to
report it from the Judiciary Committee so that we could move forward in
our discussions of the bill. I did not seek to offer immigration
amendments on the Senate floor because I wanted to derail S. 2045. Nor
did the White House urge Congress to consider other immigration issues
as part of the H-1B debate because the President wanted to play
politics with this issue, as the distinguished chairman of the
Judiciary Committee suggested on the floor a few weeks ago. Rather, the
majority's inaction on a range of immigration measures in this Congress
forced those of us who were concerned about immigration issues to
attempt to raise those issues. Under our current leadership, the
opportunity to enact needed change in our immigration laws does not
come around very often, to put it mildly.
It is a disturbing but increasingly undeniable fact that the interest
of the business community has become a prerequisite for immigration
bills to receive attention on the Senate floor. In fact, we are now in
the week before we are scheduled to adjourn, and this is the first
immigration bill to be debated on the floor in this Congress. Even
humanitarian bills with bipartisan backing have been ignored in this
Congress, both in the Judiciary Committee and on the floor of the
Senate.
It is particularly upsetting that the majority refuses to vote on the
Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act. This is a bill that I have
cosponsored and that offers help to hardworking families who pay taxes
and help keep our economy going strong. On two occasions, including
last Friday, the minority has moved to proceed to this bill, and the
majority has twice objected. In our negotiations with the majority
about how S. 2045 would be brought to the floor, we have consistently
pressed for the opportunity to vote on the proposals contained within
it. But the majority has turned its back on the concerns of Latinos and
other immigrants who are treated unfairly by our current immigration
laws.
The majority has shown a similar lack of concern for proposals by
numerous Democratic Senators to restore the due process protections
that were removed by the passage of the Antiterrorism and Effective
Death Penalty Act and the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant
Responsibility Act 4 years ago. There are still many aspects of those
laws that merit our careful review and rethinking, including the
inhumane use of expedited removal, which would be sharply limited by
the Refugee Protection Act (S. 1940) that I have introduced with
Senator Brownback.
As important as H-1B visas are for our economy and our Nation's
employers, it is not the only immigration issue that faces our Nation.
And the legislation we are concerned with today does not test our
commitment to the ideals of opportunity and freedom that America has
represented at its best. Those tests will apparently be left for
another day, or another Congress.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, I want to answer some of the comments made
by our colleagues from the other side yesterday and today.
We have been on the floor this week supposedly debating the H-1B
bill. That is S. 2045. This bill is an extremely important measure. It
is aimed at alleviating both short- and long-term problems in the
inadequate supply of a highly skilled worker force in our dynamic and
expanding high-tech economy.
The debate has turned into quite a different matter. My colleagues on
the other side stood on the floor yesterday talking about the so-called
Latino fairness legislation and insisting, time and time again, for a
vote on this unrelated measure.
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Let's review where we are. The high-tech community wants this H-1B
bill without amendment. My colleagues on both sides voted
overwhelmingly for cloture; meaning, ending the debate. Cloture would
knock out nongermane amendments which, of course, would knock out the
so-called Latino fairness amendment as well.
The last time I looked, a vote in support of cloture meant that we
support consideration of legislation without--I emphasize that word
``without''--unrelated, nongermane amendments, such as the so-called
Latino fairness bill. This bill, by the way, was only filed on July 25
of this year. If it was so important, why was it filed so late in the
session, without the opportunity for hearings or committee
consideration?
Talk about trying to have it both ways. I guess this is a brilliant
political move if you don't think about it too closely, the ultimate
effort to try to have it both ways: Give the high-tech community a
cloture vote and at the same time continue to maneuver to get around
what that cloture vote means.
So there we have it. I don't recall seeing a spectacle of this sort
in all of my years in the Senate.
Having said that, let me now join my colleagues in this discussion on
the so-called Latino fairness legislation. There was a great deal of
talk yesterday. Some of it was shameless. The talk was about due
process, about the need for more unskilled workers in this country, and
about the hardship of the parents of American-citizen children. Much of
the rhetoric does not meet reality.
My colleagues on the other side argue that they want to vote on S.
2912, the so-called Latino fairness act. I really wonder if most in the
Senate understand and appreciate what is involved in this costly, far-
reaching bill that has never had a day of hearings.
This is no limited measure, to undo a previous wrong to a limited
class of immigrants who otherwise might have been eligible for amnesty
under the 1986 act. Rather, this is a major new amnesty program,
without 1 day of hearings, with a price tag of almost $1.4 billion,
with major implications for our national policy on immigration.
For years, as Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, I have watched the
Immigration Subcommittee, and I have helped to steer through and
monitor and help make immigration policy in this country. That policy
works well, to a large degree, but there are certainly areas that we
can improve. I can tell you that some are trying to turn this
bipartisan policy upside down.
I will begin by saying that I have been a long-time supporter of
legal immigration. That is what has built this country. It has made
this country the greatest country in the world.
I believe in legal immigration. In connection with the 1996
immigration reform legislation, I fought long and hard against those
who wanted to cut legal family immigration and other categories. At
that and other times, it has been my view that our emphasis ought to be
on combating illegal, not legal, immigration.
The bill before us, however, while termed ``Latino fairness,'' does
nothing to increase or preserve the categories of legal immigrants
allowed in this country on an annual basis. It does nothing to shorten
the long waiting period or the hurdles that persons waiting years to
come to this country--people who play by the rules and wait their
turn--have to go through.
In contrast, what we hear now is an urgent call to grant broad
amnesty to what could be up to 2 million illegal aliens. Let's be clear
about what is at issue here. Some refer to the fact that a certain
class of persons who may have been entitled to amnesty in 1986 have
been unfairly treated and should therefore be granted amnesty now. That
is one issue--and I am certainly prepared to discuss that issue in our
committee, with full hearings, and resolve any inequities that exist. I
am certainly prepared to discuss that, but only outside the context of
S. 2045, a bill that virtually everybody in this body wants because it
will allow us to stay in the forefront of our global, high-tech
economy.
Again, I am prepared to discuss, outside of this bill, what we might
be able to do to help that so-called 1982 class of immigrants. But that
is not really what S. 2912 is about. This bill that some now want to
attach to the H-1B bill, would ensure its death in the House of
Representatives; it would never see the light of day. The fact is--this
bill also covers that 1982 class, but also hundreds of thousands, if
not millions, of illegal aliens who were never eligible for amnesty
under the 1986 act.
This is a difficult issue and one with major policy implications for
the future. When we supported amnesty in 1986--and I believe there were
several million people granted amnesty at that time--it was not with
the assumption that this was going to be a continuous process.
What kind of signal does this type of ``urgency'' send? On one hand,
the Government spends millions each year to combat illegal immigration
and deports thousands of persons each year who are here illegally. But
if an illegal alien can manage to escape law enforcement for long
enough, we reward that person with citizenship, or at least permanent
resident status, followed by the right to apply for citizenship after 5
years of living here.
That is a slap in the face to all of those who have abided by the
rules and who have been here legally. If there are inequities, I am
willing to work them out, but let's do it through hearings, through a
thorough examination. Let's not do it through a political sham that has
been thrust upon us on the floor for no other reason than because they
are worried on the other side that George Bush appeals to the Hispanic
community. We know he gets about 50 percent of the Hispanic vote in
Texas, and there is good reason for it.
Hispanic children are now reading at better levels. The Hispanic
people have been helped greatly in Texas by the Bush administration.
Our colleagues on the other side are deathly afraid that if he
continues to do that, the Hispanic vote--which they just take for
granted--is going to suddenly go to George Bush and the Republicans.
Well, I don't blame them for that, because I think that is what is
going to happen.
As chairman of the Republican Senatorial Hispanic Task Force, which I
helped to start years ago, I know that the Hispanics are out there
watching both parties and seeing who really has their interests at
heart. We have done more with that task force--not just by throwing
money at problems--than the other side ever dreamed of.
Further, I hope my colleagues are aware of the cost of this bill to
American taxpayers. I don't mind the costs if we are doing something
that is absolutely right. As I said, I am willing to go through the
appropriate hearing process. I do that every day in my work as a
Senator in solving immigration problems--as a lot of Senators do. But
we ought to take into consideration the costs of this to the American
taxpayers--giving amnesty to up to 2 million illegal aliens.
Specifically, a draft and preliminary CBO estimate indicates this
bill comes with a price tag just short of $1.4 billion over 10 years.
But that is a conservative estimate because the amendment actually
filed yesterday goes way beyond S. 2912 on amnesty. Not only was S.
2912, the so-called the Latino Fairness Act, filed on July 25, but the
amendment filed yesterday goes even beyond what their original bill.
The amendment's proponents argue that it just consists of a simple due
process restoration. But, in fact, it not only gives hundreds of
thousands, if not millions, additional illegal immigrants amnesty who
have been here since 1986, it appears to be a rolling amnesty measure!
In this highly charged political area, we ought to try and get
together in a bipartisan manner. But some of my friends on the other
side seem to want to play politics with this issue. They try to act as
if they are for Hispanics. But what they are in fact doing is ignoring
those who play by the rules, who are here legally, in favor of those
who are here illegally and who have broken the rules. It is a slap in
the face to all of those who have played by the rules.
What do I mean by a rolling amnesty measure? It means the amnesty
provision continues and expands for the next 6 years. That is right,
Mr. President. If illegal aliens can manage to avoid authorities until
2006--if they can avoid authorities for that long--they automatically
get amnesty, and that is a stepping stone to citizenship for people who
have violated our laws and are
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here illegally. Again, if there are people who are being injured who
should not be, people who really have due process rights, or who ought
to have consideration, I am willing to work on that with my colleagues
on the other side in a bipartisan way to do something that really
works. We do that regularly anyway. But to just throw this open on a
rolling amnesty basis for 6 solid years is not the way to go; we are
talking about millions of people who are here illegally being
automatically given the right to apply for citizenship in a few years.
Mr. President, what are we doing here? We devote hundreds of millions
of dollars each year to try and control illegal immigration. What does
this so-called fairness bill do? It rewards persons for their illegal
activity. It says let's keep fighting illegal immigration, but if
certain persons succeed in evading the law for long enough, they get
rewarded by being allowed to stay, get permanent resident status, and 5
years later can apply for citizenship, in contrast to all of those
millions who have legally come into this country under legal
immigration rules and regulations, who have abided by the law, and who
basically have paid the appropriate price to get here.
We have also heard about the need for more workers. I agree with
that. Why don't we address and examine this need, however, in the right
way? Why don't we examine increasing the number of legal immigrants
allowed to come here? Why don't we consider lifting certain of those
caps? I don't see anyone on the other side of the aisle arguing for
that. It would seem to me if they want to argue for having more
immigrants in this country--and I might go along with this--that we
ought to lift the caps. I have to admit that there are those in this
body who do not want to lift those caps--but at least in the other body
for sure. That is the appropriate way to do that.
During our debate in the 1996 act, the Democrats offered, and the
committee unanimously agreed, to curb the number of legal, unskilled
workers coming to this country. Why did they do that? Because their No.
1 supporters in the country--the trade union movement in this country--
believe that they would take jobs; that if we lifted the caps there
would be more legal immigrants coming into this country that would take
jobs away from American workers.
It is amazing to me that they wouldn't allow the caps lifted then for
that reason, and now they want the broad amnesty. They want to allow up
to 2 million illegal immigrants in here because everybody realizes
there is a shortage of workers right now.
I am willing to consider lifting those caps, and do it legally and do
it the right way. I would be willing to do that. But without hearings,
and without a really thorough examination of this, I am not willing to
just wholesale have a rolling amnesty provision that would allow
millions of illegal aliens who haven't played by the rules to have a
wide open street to citizenship while many people who are applying
legally can't get in and who really need to get in.
I agree with the need to reexamine our position on lifting the caps
on legal immigration. Let's do that. I am willing to hold hearings, or
make sure the subcommittee holds the hearings on that. By the way, they
have held some hearings.
I have to say that generally the two leaders on the Subcommittee on
Immigration, Senator Abraham from Michigan and Senator Kennedy from
Massachusetts, have worked well together. But all of a sudden, there's
a chance to score political points, they think. I don't think they are
getting political points. If I was a legal Hispanic, or a legal
Chinese, or a legal person from any other country, I would resent
knowing how difficult it was for me to become a legal immigrant while
people who are trying to make it possible for those who are illegally
here to be able to become citizens without obeying the same rules. I
suspect there is going to be a lot of resentment, if people really
understand this.
While we are at it, why don't we do something to get the INS to move
more swiftly--the Immigration and Naturalization Service--to move more
swiftly on applications for legal immigrants? That would be real Latino
fairness. That is what we ought to be doing on the floor.
There isn't a person in this body who cares more for family
unification than I do. There are some who are certainly my equal here.
But nobody exceeds my desire to bring families together, a point
brought out yesterday. I fought for years on this issue. Every day we
are working on immigration problems to try to solve the problem of
bringing families together in my offices in Utah and here.
If we really care about family reunification, why don't we do
something about the Immigration and Naturalization Service? Why should
parents, children, and spouses have to stay on a waiting list for
years? I would like to hear more comments from the other side on that.
But every time you try to lift the caps, their friends in the union
movement come in and say: You can't do that. You might take jobs away
from union workers.
Under the H-1B bill, we are not taking jobs away from union workers
or from anyone else. We are trying to maintain our dominant status
throughout the world in the high-tech world. We are trying to make sure
we keep the people here who can really help us do that. That bill
provides that those who are highly educated in our universities have a
right to stay here and work. This is the bill we are talking about. It
is a step in the right direction to get us there.
What does this so-called Latino fairness amendment, or bill, that
they filed so late in this Presidential year say to families who played
by the rules? It doesn't say obey the laws and wait your turn. It says
we are going to make special favors for those of you who are here
illegally, and we are going to do it on a rolling amnesty basis over
the next 6 years. They are just going to have the right to become
citizens, while others have had to abide by the rules--rules that have
been set over decades and decades.
I challenge anybody on the other side to work with me in helping to
resolve these problems. I am willing to do that. I don't need a lecture
from people on the other side about families who have been split up. I
think it is abysmal to have families split up. I am willing to work to
try and solve that problem, but it takes both sides to do it.
Last but not least, it is no secret that our committee handles
intellectual property in many of the high-tech issues in this country.
Last year we passed one of the most important bills in patent changes
in the history of the country--certainly in the last 50 years. We
passed a number of other high-tech bills to make a real difference.
We have done an awful lot to make sure our high-tech world in this
country stays at the top of the ladder.
I just came from the Finance Committee upon which I sit where I made
a principal argument that we need to get this new bill through that
Chairman Roth is working on with the ranking member, Senator Moynihan,
to have a broadband tax credit which we need now.
S. 2045 is one of the most important high-tech bills in this
Congress. Everybody here, except for about three people, believes it
should pass. Almost everybody on both sides of the floor has said it
should pass. Everybody says it is a very important bill.
The fact is, there are people in this body who are scared to death
that Republicans might make inroads with the Hispanic community. I know
that because I am chairman of the Republican Senatorial Standing Task
Force. We have been working for better than 10 years on Hispanic
affairs.
We don't care whether Democrats, Independents, or Republicans are on
our task force. In fact, we have all three there. We don't care if they
are Conservatives, Liberals, or Independents. They are all there. I
have to tell you that we have been working hard on every Hispanic issue
that this country has. There is basically no end to what we will all
try to do, to help assimilate the Hispanic people who are immigrants in
this country into every aspect of opportunity that this country has to
offer.
To be honest with you, our country is the No. 1 high-tech country in
the world. The reason we are is because we have worked together in many
respects to get some of these high-tech bills through that make a
difference.
I prefer to see my colleagues on the other side work with us rather
than
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against us, as they are doing right now. I don't want to pull this bill
down, but it is coming down if we can't get this bill passed in a
relatively short period of time. By tomorrow, there will be three
cloture votes overwhelmingly for this bill. If Democrats don't want
this bill, why are they voting for cloture? If they want to vote
against cloture tomorrow, I can live with that. We will pull the
doggone bill down and say to the high-tech community, we are not going
to support you this year because we can't get enough support from our
friends on the other side. That is exactly what I will tell them, and
it won't be one inch far from the truth.
The fact is, everyone on the other side knows that this is a critical
bill. It has taken bipartisan support to get it this far. It has great
hope for the high-tech industry in this country. It will provide more
high-tech workers and more high-tech jobs. Now, we may have some
difficulty getting the House to go along with everything we are doing
here.
If we keep playing around with this and delaying it beyond this week,
it will make impossible to pass it in the end.
I know how important this legislation is. I have worked on high-tech
issues for all of my Senate career, and have worked patent, copyright,
and trademark laws throughout the country. I don't think anyone can say
I haven't made a strong bipartisan effort to make sure we stay at the
top of the high-tech world. The best way we can do it right now is to
pass broadband tax credit and to pass this H-1B legislation and get the
House to go along with it. It is the best thing we can do.
We are in an inane battle on the floor because some people want to
score some political points. I was almost embarrassed by some of the
comments yesterday--not almost, I was embarrassed for some of these
people. Is there no length to which they will go at the end of this
session to score political points? I don't like it on my side, and I
certainly don't like it on the other side. This is a time for
cooperation, to help our country get through this year, and to
hopefully spur us into the next year, whoever is President. I intend to
do that. I want to have some bipartisan support in getting it done.
I suppose we will have to go through another cloture vote tomorrow--
three cloture votes on one bill that almost everybody is for.
I think it is time to quit scoring political points and get the job
done. This H-1B bill is a critical bill for America. It is a critical
bill for American children and American workers. It contains critical
bipartisan training and education provisions to equip our workforce for
the 21st century. Those are provisions we worked out with the other
side in order to get this bill, something I agree with 100 percent,
that I will fight for in Congress.
One would think they would want to do this and quit playing around
with the bill. The longer we go on this bill, if we go beyond this
week, it seems to me it makes it more problematic whether we can ever
pass an H-1B piece of legislation with these wonderful, critical
provisions to help train our children for the future workforce, for the
high-tech world they are going to enter.
I have met with people today who are prescient with regard to the
future. We have been talking broadband all morning. We have been
talking about wireless. We have been talking about cable. We have been
talking about the critical infrastructure industries. We have been
talking about software. Almost all of it is dependent upon whether we
pass an H-1B bill.
The rest of the world isn't standing still while we are sitting here
treading water week after week, debating whether we will allow an H-1B
final vote. If this were the final vote to pass this bill, I could wait
another few days. But we still have to deal with the House. We are
going to have to work that out. That will take some time. We don't have
a lot of time.
It seems to me we ought to get rid of politics. I hope people
watching this will listen to the other side and realize how political
they have been. Yesterday it was almost shameful--no, it wasn't; it was
shameful--the arguments made on the floor. It is all done just for
political advantage. Frankly, I don't think they get any advantage.
I believe the millions of legal immigrants with green cards might
resent rolling amnesty for 6 years to millions of illegal immigrants
who don't abide by the rules.
This is an important bill. We can no longer afford to play the
political games that were played yesterday and apparently will be
played through a cloture vote tomorrow. I think the other side ought to
allow the vote or just admit they really aren't for this bill in spite
of the overwhelming cloture votes we have had so far. I would like to
see that in this body, especially at the end of this year.
There are those on our side who really would like to work with our
colleagues on the other side in a bipartisan manner. I know the
Presiding Officer is one, and I believe there are a lot of others who
want to see that done.
There is a strong suspicion among many in the media and many on our
side that there is a deliberate slowdown, with filibusters, even
motions to proceed, for no other reason than a political advantage. It
really gets old.
I think once in a while we really ought to put the best interests of
our country ahead of everything else. This is a bill where we ought to
do that. We have so much support for this bill, if it is allowed to be
voted upon. Supporters ought to be allowed to express themselves in a
vote for or against this bill. This is one bill where we can be
together. We had 94 votes on this bill, in essence, yesterday; only 3
against. I suspect if we got the other 3, they would be for it, too, so
it would be 97 with, 3 against; if they were against, it would be 94-6.
But, no. Steady delay. Day in, day out, steady filibusters. Now they
will say they are not filibustering. Then why are they forcing a
cloture vote every day?--to have cloture votes on a bill that virtually
everybody admits is a good bi-partisan bill.
By the way, I want to thank Senators Feinstein, Kennedy, Lieberman,
and of course Senator Abraham. We have all worked together on this
bill. We have accommodated Democrats. We have shown good faith. I thank
them for helping. I think it is time to end this charade, end the
political posturing we have had. Let's pass this bill.
Start doing what is right. Live up to what everybody in this body,
except for the three, I suppose, has told the high-tech world--we are
going to get H-1B passed. But I tell you we are not going to get it
passed if this kind of charade continues because I myself will bring
this bill down and then we will start over again next year and
hopefully we will have a more bipartisan approach towards it. I would
hate to do that; I sure would, after all the work we put in trying to
get this bill passed when I know that could delay it 6 to 9 months
before we really are helping our people in the high-tech world who
drastically need help.
I have been there. I have been out there. I know the people, the top
people, the top CEOs in almost all of these companies. I have been
meeting with a bunch of them this morning, everybody from ATT,
Microsoft, Sun Microsystems, Oracle, Novell--you name it. I know them
all. I don't think they are partisan. I think they like both parties,
and I think they help both parties, and I think they deserve our help.
Frankly, to put us through another cloture vote--it seems to me to be
inane. I do not want to accuse anybody of lacking good faith, but I
will tell you after what I heard yesterday, I say, my gosh, how can
they stand there and make those kinds of comments, when you know if you
want to really help get jobs and get people in here to take jobs, let's
lift the caps on legal immigration but not change the laws with one
stroke of the pen, without 1 day of hearings, and allow up to 2 million
people on a rolling amnesty over a 6-year period to really become
citizens, flashing in the face of everybody who paid the price to abide
by the rules, it is just not right.
Frankly, I am getting tired of it. That is why I have gone on and on
today, because I am tired of it. I think it is time for us to do
something good for a change, to work together and get it done. I am
going to be here to try to get it done in the next day or so. If we do
not, then we will pull the bill down. Then we will just throw our hands
in the air and say it is too political a Congress to do something
worthwhile for our country.
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Everybody on my side is going to vote for this bill--they have been
there from day 1--at least I believe everybody, certainly the vast
majority, are going to vote for this bill in the end because they
believe our future depends on being able to solve some of these
problems that this bill will solve.
I believe we will have a tremendous number of votes on the Democratic
side because we have some of the top leaders in this area on this bill.
I mentioned some of them a few minutes ago. We have accommodated them
in language in this bill that makes sense. I am saying on the floor of
the Senate that I would fight for that language because of our Democrat
friends who have worked with us to put that good language together. I
will do it in a bipartisan way.
But the high-tech companies are not the primary beneficiaries. They
are beneficiaries, no question about it. The primary beneficiaries are
the children who will benefit from the education proposals here and the
American workers who will benefit from the critical training provisions
that we have in this bill. Let's pass this bill for them. I have to
admit the high-tech industry will benefit tremendously, too.
What the Daschle motion says is let's ignore the rules of the Senate.
Let's take the easy route. Their Latino fairness bill says let's ignore
all these immigration laws we have all fought over in a bipartisan way
for years--and many us on this side have helped those on the other
side. Let's ignore those immigration laws. Let's take the easy route.
There is a similar theme here. Some want to have it both ways. This
sort of double-speak is why so many Americans have grown tired of
Washington politics as usual. I hope I have at least made the case we
on this side stand ready to pass this bill a minute from now if the
other side will allow a vote up and down on this bill. If they do not,
we will go to cloture again, and then we will see what we can do
postcloture to get this thing brought to a close where people can vote
for it.
Then, assuming we will pass this bill, we will go to work with the
House and see if they will take this bill. If they will not take this
bill, we will go to conference and fight very hard with everything I
have to make sure there are these provisions in this bill; that we have
195,000 high-tech workers allowed into this country and that we have
the right for those who are highly educated, in American institutions,
to stay here to work in our high-tech world, and that we have these
provisions to help train our children.
Those are pretty important provisions. This is a very important bill.
To stand here and say everybody in business and all these companies
want all these illegal immigrants to be naturalized--so what? We ought
to abide by the law. That is why we have immigration laws. Where there
are inequities, we ought to work to resolve them. I promise you, I will
work to resolve them. I have been doing it for my whole 24 years in the
Senate, and I am not going to stop now. We can resolve them if we work
together. If we do not work together, we cannot.
I hope both sides will get serious about this bill. I hope we can
pass this bill. I hope we can get this matter resolved. I would like to
do it today, if we can, but certainly by tomorrow. We will look at it
and see if we have to pull it down if we can't get this resolved.
Mr. REID. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the time of
the Senator from California, Mrs. Boxer, under the postcloture
proceedings, be in the control of the Senator from Nevada.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Ms. Collins). Is there objection? Without
objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. REID. Madam President, my good friend from Utah, for whom I have
the greatest respect got a little carried away this morning. I don't
think he would purposely call me or my colleagues incompetent--but he
did. I don't think he would call us silly or stupid, but he did. The
word ``inane,'' in a dictionary, means silly or stupid.
We have a philosophical difference in what we are doing here. The
fact that we disagree with the chairman of the Judiciary Committee does
not mean we are incompetent. It doesn't mean we are stupid. It just
demonstrates that we have a basic disagreement.
Mr. President, I want to go back and start where the majority started
this morning, with the chairman of the Appropriations Committee on
Commerce-State-Justice. Among other things, he said we were crying
crocodile tears over here, and that this piece of legislation only
dealt with criminals. I am paraphrasing what the other side said, but
not too much. In actuality they said was that ``criminals were coming
in, and attempting to do an end run to get citizenship.''
The fact is, I take great exception to that. The Democratic proposal
would not allow criminals to become citizens. First, this legislation
is not offering citizenship. We are offering longtime residents, people
who are already in this country, the ability to apply for permanent
residency and then perhaps apply for citizenship. Second, anyone
applying for residency must have good moral character. They also must
show they have good moral character, which means that anyone with a
criminal record--not criminals, of course wouldn't qualify, anyone with
a criminal record would not qualify for permanent residency.
These people are people who are already in the country. They are
working, they are paying taxes, they work hard. In many instances, in
fact most instances, others won't take their jobs.
I think my friend from New Hampshire, for whom I have the greatest
respect--he has a record which is outstanding; he served in the House
of Representatives, was the Governor of the State of New Hampshire, is
now a Member of the Senate--I do not think he is suggesting that the
U.S. Chamber of Commerce, who supports the Latino Fairness Act
wholeheartedly, is suggesting the U.S. Chamber of Commerce wants
citizenship for criminals. I don't think the American Health Care
Association is suggesting we want citizenship for criminals. I know
that the American Hotel and Motel Association is not saying we should
come here and give a blanket citizenship to criminals. I don't think
the Resort, Recreation and Tourism organization is suggesting that
criminals be given citizenship.
We have a list. We talked about it yesterday: The National Retail
Association--dozens and dozens of organizations and companies believe
we must do something, not only to protect the people who we are going
to give the right to come to this country, under H-1B. In fact, we have
given almost a half a million people the right to come to this country
under H-1B.
We are going to increase it this year up to almost 200,000. I have a
couple of different lists, and I could go to another chart. These
companies and organizations believe that people who are already in the
country also deserve the right to apply for permanent residency and
someday apply for citizenship.
This is nothing but a typical red herring. In fact, the Republicans,
the majority, are saying: How could you have this bill without even
having a hearing? That will bring a smile to your face. The legislation
pending before the Senate, the energy bill, S. 2557, was brought to the
floor by the majority leader and it has had no hearings.
To say we did not introduce this legislation until July 25, we may
not have introduced specifically the legislation, but I wrote a letter
to the majority leader in May outlining the legislation. There have
been long-time discussions.
In fact, we were denied a hearing in the House. We tried to have a
hearing in the House last year on this legislation, but we could not.
The chairman of the Immigration Subcommittee refused to give us a
hearing, so Sheila Jackson-Lee and I had an informal hearing in the
House. We could not do it because the chairman of the subcommittee
would not let us have a hearing.
The parity legislation was introduced 3 years ago. That is no
surprise to anyone. The registry has been in our law since 1929. I
introduced the same legislation last year. We reintroduced it, of
course, but it was introduced last year. We had, as I indicated, an
informal hearing because we were denied a formal hearing.
The chairman of the Judiciary Committee said: What about the July 25
introduction? In his words, ``Is this incompetence?'' The Latino and
Immigrant Fairness Act contains multiple provisions, all of which were
introduced well before July 2000. We combined a number of pieces of
legislation
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that have been around for a long time. Central American parity was
introduced on September 15 of last year; date of registry was
introduced on August 5, 1999. These have bill numbers. Section 245(i)
was introduced May 25, 2000. Also, the one my friend from Rhode Island,
Mr. Reed, cares so much about, was introduced in March of 1999. These
proposals have been denied hearings in the Judiciary Committee that my
friend from Utah chairs and the Immigration Subcommittee which Senator
Abraham chairs. There have been no hearings because the majority has
refused to allow us to have hearings.
Let's boil this down to where we really understand what is going on
around here. There are threats to pull down the H-1B legislation. I
dare them to pull the bill down. I dare them because it would be on
their conscience. We have said we will vote on H-1B--what time is it
now? Five to 12. We will vote at 12 o'clock. We can have a unanimous
consent agreement that the vote can start in 5 minutes on H-1B. As soon
as that 15-minute vote, which around here takes 40 minutes, is
finished, we will have another 15-minute vote on our Latino and
Immigrant Fairness Act. We can complete it all in just a few minutes.
If people do not like our legislation, vote against it. There is a
unanimous consent request kicking around here someplace which we hope
to have approved soon that we vote at 4:30 on Senator Daschle's motion
to suspend the rules so we can vote on this. Keep in mind, so everyone
understands, you can disguise it any way you want, but this is a vote
on our amendment, the Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act.
There has been a lot of talk about the registry provision that this
is something new and unique, changing 1982 and 1986. This same thing
has been going on since 1929.
The registry provision originated in 1929. The registry provision has
been amended many times since 1929. In 1940, the registry date was
changed to July 1, 1924, and in 1958, the date was changed to June 28,
1940. Subsequently, the date was changed to June 30, 1948, then January
1, 1972, then, of course, we changed it to 1982, giving people 1 year
to apply. That is what we are talking about, 1 year to apply. Some
people did not file within that 1 year, even though they qualified.
People who are here who deserve to qualify under the same law that has
been changed since 1929 deserve a fair hearing.
What happened? What happened is there was sneaked into a bill a
provision that said these people would not be entitled to a due process
hearing, a fair hearing. So hundreds of thousands of people who could
have qualified under the 1982 cutoff date were denied that privilege,
and we are saying that is wrong. That is one of the most important
parts of our legislation.
We are not ignoring the law with this legislation. We are correcting
flaws in current immigration policy that have denied people the
opportunity to have legal immigrant status.
My friend from Utah has disparaged a number of people, in addition to
calling us incompetent, silly, and stupid. He also said that because
trade unions oppose some legislation, that it is necessarily bad. Let's
talk about trade unions.
Let's see here. We have carpenters. Carpenters: What is wrong with
carpenters? We have nurses. I wonder what is wrong with nurses opposing
legislation, or I wonder what is wrong with having people who work as
electricians opposing legislation? What is wrong with trade unions
opposing legislation? Is that any worse than the Chamber of Commerce
supporting or opposing legislation? There has been a lot of name-
calling that has been unnecessary.
We are playing around with this bill: If allowing people who have
been here for many years to apply for permanent residency is playing
around with legislation, then we are playing around with legislation.
The playing around is going to stop because we are going to have this
legislation passed. The President of the United States has said this
will be in a bill, and if it is not, he will veto the bill. He has also
gone so far as to say: I would like some support from the Congress
before I do that. He has it. He has more than enough to sustain a veto
in a letter to him from the House and from the Senate.
Our legislation is going to come to be, and people might just as well
realize that. What Senators from the majority should also understand is
that we are going to vote on our measure. We are going to vote for H-
1B. We support it, but in addition to H-1B, we also believe, without
any question, that we need to vote on our legislation. We need
individuals who fill a critical shortage of high-tech workers in this
country. We support that. We also need essential workers, skilled, and
semi-skilled workers to fill jobs, as indicated by the scores of
organizations and companies that support our amendment, our
legislation.
I hope the majority understands they are the ones holding up this
legislation, not us. They can file 15 more motions to invoke cloture,
and we are still going to have a vote on our amendment. One of the
votes is going to occur this afternoon if the unanimous consent request
is brought forward. If not, it will occur some other time.
We believe that the vote which is going to occur at 4:30 this
afternoon is the first test to finding out how people really feel about
supporting this legislation--not holding hearings in the future, not
saying we want to increase the caps on legal immigration. I do not want
to do that. We need to deal with it now.
I think what we need to do is not talk about the future; let's talk
about today, what we are going to do to make sure these people in Las
Vegas--20,000 people in Nevada; most of them in Las Vegas--who have had
their work cards pulled, who have lost their jobs, who have had their
mortgages foreclosed on their homes, who have had their cars
repossessed, who have had their credit cards pulled from them, who
deserve the basic protections that we have in this country in something
called due process that has been denied--we want to have a due process
hearing for these people who have children who are American citizens,
wives and husbands who are American citizens.
Today is the day we are going to determine if my constituents in
Nevada are going to be given what every American, every person within
the boundaries of our country, has a right to, and that is due process.
What we have is a piece of legislation that seeks to provide
permanent and legally defined groups of immigrants who are already
here, already working, already contributing to the tax base and social
fabric of our country, with a way to gain U.S. permanent residency and
hopefully someday citizenship.
I repeat, 5 minutes from now we would agree to vote on H-1B. Five
minutes after that vote is completed, we will agree to vote on the
Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act.
I also say, if that process is not allowed, then we are going to
continue here in the Senate to keep working until people are called
upon to account for how they feel about this legislation. There comes a
time when you have to fess up, you have to vote for or against a piece
of legislation. That is what we are asking for here--a vote for or
against this legislation.
Mr. GRAMM addressed the Chair.
Mr. REID. If my friend would withhold, there is a unanimous consent
request that I understand----
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Burns). The Senator from Texas.
Mr. GRAMM. Mr. President, to hasten the moment of this all-important
vote, I ask unanimous consent that a vote occur on the pending Daschle
motion to suspend the rules at 4:30 p.m. today, and the time between
now and 4:30 p.m. be equally divided in the usual form.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. GRAMM. Mr. President, I further ask unanimous consent,
notwithstanding rule XXII, that following that vote, the pending
amendments Nos. 4201 and 4183 be considered adopted, and the vote then
occur immediately on the second-degree amendment No. 4178, without any
intervening action or debate.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. GRAMM. Mr. President, in light of this agreement, Members can
expect two back-to-back votes at 4:30 p.m. today.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Texas.
Mr. GRAMM. Mr. President, let me begin by talking about immigration.
I
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am a strong supporter of immigration. I am proud that my grandfather
came to this country right before the turn of the 20th century. I am
proud that my wife's grandfather came to America as an indentured
laborer to work in the sugar cane fields in Hawaii. In fact, this
summer, I had the very happy experience of our family donating to the
Institute of Texan Cultures in San Antonio a photograph of my wife's
grandmother that was a picture in a picture book that men went through
to pick out what was called a ``picture- book bride'' to send for her
to come to America.
This pioneer came to America to marry a man she had never met in a
strange country whose language she did not speak; she came seeking
opportunity and freedom, and found both.
That is a story of America in action. Her granddaughter, under
Presidents Reagan and Bush, became Chairman of the Commodity Futures
Trading Commission, where she oversaw the trading of all futures,
including futures on the same cane sugar that her grandfather came to
America to cut by hand.
I am as strongly committed to immigration as you can be committed to
immigration.
I also remind my colleagues that the bill before the Senate was co-
authored by Senator Abraham, by the distinguished chairman of the
Judiciary Committee, Senator Hatch, and by myself.
This bill seeks to allow highly skilled people--many of them in
graduate school in America--to stay in our country, to help us be
competitive in the world market, to help us dominate the information
age, and to help us create more jobs for our own people.
I challenge anyone to point to a more committed position in favor of
immigration than I have taken as a Member of the Senate.
In fact, our Presiding Officer may remember a speech I gave once
about a young man who worked for me on my staff named Rohit Kumar. I
was debating, I believe, Senator Kennedy at the time. I took this young
man's family--his father is a research physician; his mother is a
doctor; his uncle is an engineer--and I simply went through a list of
Kumars in America--his parents had come here as immigrants. And I
talked about the contributions they made and the taxes they paid. The
conclusion of my speech was this: America needs more Kumars. By the
way, lest anyone be confused by what has now become an American name,
the Kumars came from India.
Why do I say all this? To make it clear that America is not full. I
believe there is still room in America for people who come and bring
new genius and new energy and new creativity. But I draw a bright
line--it is as bright as the morning Sun--and it is on one issue:
People should come to America legally. People should come to America to
be part of the American dream. In coming to America, people should not
violate the laws of our country.
Apparently, our Democrat colleagues feel so comfortable that it is a
salable political position to take that they want to change the law to
say that people who violated the laws of our country are welcome to
America. I reject that. I reject it because it is patently unfair.
Our Democrat colleagues even have the arrogance to call this the
``Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act,'' as if the label would make it
so. I wonder how many people who are waiting in line to come to
America--the several million people who have applied to come legally;
people whose spouses have applied to come--I wonder how fair they think
it is that they are going to bed every night dreaming of coming to
America, and we are going to put somebody who violated the laws of the
country in front of them.
I do not call that fair. Quite frankly, I am happy to label the idea
outrageous and condescending, that if someone is a Latino that they
must therefore favor changing the laws to allow people who violated the
immigration laws to come and to stay and to invite others to do the
same.
I remind my colleagues that in 1986 we passed a landmark immigration
bill. The fundamental tenets of that bill were, one, we were going to
enforce employer sanctions--we have not done that, as everybody who
lives in America knows--and two, that if you came before 1982 and you
were in good standing, you could apply and become a permanent resident
alien and eventually you could become a citizen. But if you came
afterward, the commitment of that bill was that was the last general
amnesty we were ever going to provide.
Now our Democrat colleagues obviously think it is good politics that
we should go back on the commitments we made in that bill. Hence, we
have the bill that is before us.
Let me explain the issue of how we came to be here, then the
procedure that is being used. Finally, I will talk about this threat by
President Clinton that if we don't adopt a bill legalizing illegal
acts, he is going to shut down the FBI and the Justice Department by
not funding their appropriations.
Let me begin by explaining that we have before us a bill called the
H-1B program. Most Americans, I am sure, don't know what H-1B is, but
basically this is a procedure in immigration law that allows us to
employ uniquely skilled, high-income workers, principally, as it has
turned out, in this new area of high technology and computer science--
many of these people are actually graduate students in our country;
half of the students in the high-tech areas at American universities
are foreign born, as I am sure many people know. Because we have such
critical shortages in this area, this provision allows these people to
stay in America and work and help us create jobs for people who are
already here.
Our Democrat colleagues claim they are for this bill. The problem is,
they won't let us vote on it. But when it gets right down to it, they
want to be paid tribute. The tribute they are seeking is passage of
another bill that would let people who violated the law to stay in our
country.
Now we have made it very clear that we are not going to pay tribute.
Their problem is, they have gone to Silicon Valley, they have gone to
Austin, TX, they have gone to the high-tech centers of America, and
they have told people in the high-tech industry: We are with you; the
Democrat Party is with you; we are for the H-1B program. The problem
they have is, their actions do not comport with their words. And that
is why we are here simply saying, if you are for the H-1B program, pass
it.
I have believed for a couple of days that we are coming to the end of
this charade. I don't believe our Democrat colleagues can sustain the
American public--that is, the relatively small number of people who are
interested in this bill--watching Democrats every day delay a bill
which they are out trumpeting their support. You can confuse some of
the people some of the time, but people cannot be confused under these
circumstances.
Meanwhile, our Democrat colleagues are on the verge of throwing in
the towel on H-1B by saying, well, we want another bill on another
issue. To that end, they have adopted a very unusual procedure of
trying to change the rules of the Senate in order to accomplish what
they want, and we are going to vote on that at 4:30. That is going to
be defeated, soundly defeated.
Let me turn to President Clinton. I wonder if, in these waning hours
of the Clinton administration, our President has not become so deluded
by his power and the semblance of power he has exercised in the last 8
years in beating Congress into submission. I wonder if the President
has not started to believe he is King, that somehow he can say to us,
if you don't pass a law legalizing illegal activities in America, I
will shut down the FBI and the Justice Department.
That is what the threat is. The threat is, if we don't pass a bill
that says people who violated the law in coming to America can stay
here, he will veto an appropriations bill that funds the FBI, the DEA,
the Justice Department, and the Federal prison system. It seems to me
those aren't the words of a President, those are the words of a King.
Does he believe we are so weak in our commitment to the
constitutional principle? The Congress is given the power under article
I of the Constitution to appropriate money, not the President.
I will say to the President, if he wants to veto the Commerce-State-
Justice appropriations bill--I know the bill well because I once had
the privilege of chairing that subcommittee --if he wants to veto that
bill and risk shutting down the FBI and the Justice
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Department and the DEA because we are not going to pass a bill that has
nothing to do with those appropriations but simply a bill that
legalizes illegal activity, then I would have to say to the President
he had better get his pen out and he had better be sure it has ink in
it.
You never know what is going to happen around here, but let me tell
you, from one Senator's point of view, a private in the Army, as long
as there is any possibility of resisting this I am never, ever going to
sit by without using every right I have as a Senator to stop that from
happening.
What an outrageous, deeply offensive threat. Are none of our Democrat
colleagues offended? I will be interested to see how the sage of the
Senate, our colleague from West Virginia, ranking member of the
Appropriations Committee, former majority leader, former chairman of
the Appropriations Committee, how he feels about a President who has
become so deluded about his powers that he believes he is King and that
he can say to us, you either legalize illegal acts in America or I will
shut down the FBI and the DEA and the Justice Department.
I understand we are simple people here in the Senate. We have
demonstrated over and over that we don't have President Clinton's
ability to communicate with the public. We don't have the ability to
stand for one thing one day and the next day do a 180-degree reversal
and everybody thinks it is great.
But if we don't have the ability to stand up to a President in
telling us that unless we pass legislation legalizing illegal activity,
he is going to shut down the FBI and the DEA and the Justice Department
and the prison system by vetoing an appropriations bill forum--if we
can't stand up and debate that, we might as well eliminate Congress and
just let Bill Clinton rule.
I don't intend to see that happen. It may be we will get run over
here, but we are not going to get run over without one great fight. I
am going to be surprised in the end if there is not at least one
Democrat who is going to join us in this fight.
Now, let me turn to the heart and soul of this issue, the belief by
our Democrat colleagues that it is good politics to make it legal for
people to engage in illegal activity in coming to America. Our Democrat
colleagues believe they are going to gain votes in this election by
saying that if you violated the law in coming to America, if you jumped
in line in front of the several million people who have applied to come
legally, don't worry because we intend to legalize what you did. And
don't worry about the spouses of people who are already here, who are
waiting and praying for the day they can come to America legally, just
jump ahead of them, violate the law, come to America, because once you
get here, we will embrace you and legalize your actions.
I know our Democrat colleagues believe this is good politics. I know
our Democrat colleagues believe, because of the way they named this
bill, that every immigrant and especially Latinos support illegal
immigration. What an outrageous, offensive name for this bill, the
``Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act.'' What is fair about a bill that
sanctions illegal activities? What is fair about saying to several
million people--more of them Latinos than any other ethnic extraction
or origin--that it is fair for somebody to violate the law and come to
America ahead of you, but it is fair to make you wait month after
month, year after year, to join the people you love? That is the
Democrats idea of fairness? What is fair about that?
I think immigrants--and, quite frankly, I still consider myself one--
I don't think most people who are immigrants to America believe this is
about fairness. They believe this is a raw political act, and they are
right. This is putting politics ahead of people. This is about trying
to single out a group of people, as if every Hispanic in my State
believes that it is OK to let someone violate the law.
I reject that. That is not the way Texans feel, no matter what their
ethic origin. I think when people really look at this, they are going
to see that this for what it is, an outrageous political act.
Since I am going to stand for reelection in a State where many
Hispanics are going to vote--and I am proud of the fact that when I ran
in 1990, I got about half of the Hispanic vote in my State--I,
obviously, do not believe that this is the great political ploy that
our Democrat colleagues believe it to be.
Mr. CRAIG. Will the Senator yield for a question?
Mr. GRAMM. I am happy to yield.
Mr. CRAIG. The Senator makes a point that I hope echoes across this
country, which is that you cannot honor, recognize, or enhance the
concept of breaking the law or acting illegally and therefore be
rewarded for it. We are struggling mightily on the floor to address a
need in this country; it is called an employment need--H-1B workers
primarily for the high-tech industry.
The Senator knows I have worked on H-2A, the issue of primarily
Hispanic workforces but migrant labor coming to this country to work in
agriculture. We have a very real need there, but we are trying to
adjust a law so that it accommodates a citizenry, treats them in a
humane way, but stays within the law because we have to control our
borders.
It is critically necessary that as a nation we control our borders.
What you are suggesting--and this is my question--if you can make it
across the border illegally, and if you can stay here long enough and
raise your issue through an interest group long enough, or with a
political party, you may be rewarded for having broken the law by
getting someone to do something for you.
Mr. GRAMM. Basically, what their bill is, is that you will be
rewarded by being put in front of the 7 million people who have applied
to come to America legally because they weren't willing to violate
America's laws to become Americans and you were. If I may say this, and
I then will yield the floor------
Mr. CRAIG. May I ask one more question?
Mr. GRAMM. Yes.
Mr. CRAIG. Under current law as to the Immigration and Naturalization
Service, people who seek either status in this country as a legal
resident but not a citizen, apply and basically line up on a list and
wait for the process to move them through; is that how it works? You
are saying we would jump millions ahead of that?
Mr. GRAMM. We would jump millions ahead of those who are currently in
other countries, some of them spouses of people who live in America who
applied to come here legally. Basically, what the Democrats' bill says
is, look, the people who violate the law will be rewarded. I don't
believe you promote a respect for law by rewarding people who violate
the law, and I don't know a single Texan who believes that, either.
Let me make this clear. I am not saying that there are not some
special cases where people, because of bureaucracies--and we all know
bureaucracies and how they work or don't work--I am not saying there
are not thousands, maybe tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands
of people who have a good case against the bureaucracy and they should
have an opportunity to make their case. Whatever we can do to speed the
bureaucratic process and give people justice, I am for. I am sure our
colleagues, at some point in the debate, will hold up some case of a
person who has not gotten due process from the Clinton administration's
Immigration and Naturalization Service. But the solution to that is not
to throw out the law book; the solution is to install new leadership,
to fix the INS bureaucracy and to deal with people's problems
effectively and on an individual basis.
So let me conclude with the following highlights: No. 1, I am for
legal immigration because I think it enriches America. As some of my
colleagues know, I was once chairman of the National Republican
Senatorial Committee. We were having an event and a very sweet little
old lady from Florida stood up and said, ``Senator Gramm, why does
everybody at this meeting talk funny?'' Well, we had a lot of people
who I guess you would call ``ethnics'' there, and everybody sort of
gasped and wondered what I might say and not hurt anybody's feelings,
including this lady's feelings. So I said the first thing that occurred
to me: ``Ma'am, I guess people talk funny because this is America.''
I want immigrants to come to America. I want them to join in the
American dream, as my family and my
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wife's family have been blessed to join in. I want them to come
legally, and I draw the line on that. I am willing to face every voter
in Texas on that.
Our Democrat colleagues are really hoping today that the voters are
not paying attention. They are hoping some of these radical groups
wanting to change America's law to forgive the fact that their members
have violated the law are watching this debate on television. But they
hope that the working men and women of America are not paying attention
to this issue. They want credit for saying they will reward you for
violating the law, but I don't think they are going to want the
American people to know the political game they are engaged in with
putting politics before people.
Let me say that I am happy to debate this issue. I don't have any
fear about this issue whatsoever--none. Anybody who wants to come to
Texas and debate this issue will have a grand opportunity to do that
when I am running, and I look forward to them coming. Texans, including
Hispanics, do not believe that those who violate the law should be
treated better than people who abide by the law.
I think our Democrat colleagues have misjudged this issue if they
think hard-working Hispanics in this country believe we ought to allow
people to break the law and be rewarded for it. I reject that, I will
be happy to debate it, and I am going to be eager to vote on it at
4:30.
Finally, to repeat, in case anybody missed it, President Clinton
threatened to veto the funding measure for the FBI, the DEA, the
Justice Department, and the prison system unless we legalize illegal
activity--something that is not only bad policy and that the American
people are against, but that has nothing to do with funding Commerce-
State-Justice. If the President really believes that is going to work,
he believes he has become a King. I think the time has come to show him
that he can veto a good bill, but he cannot make us pass this bad law
that would legalize and reward lawlessness in America.
You can put a pretty face on this. You can sugarcoat it all you want.
But what we are seeing is a blatant political act that is before the
Senate in an effort to appeal to voters who believe that somehow it is
good policy in America to legalize illegal actions and to reward people
who have violated the law. Maybe I misjudge America. Maybe I don't
understand this issue. But I don't think so.
I want everybody to know about this issue. I want to be sure
everybody hears about this issue. I would be willing to let this
election and every election from now until the end of time be
determined by the issue of refusing to legalize illegal activity for
political gain.
Our Democrat colleagues have chosen poorly, in my opinion. We are not
going to be stampeded by President Clinton into passing this bill.
I can't prevent it from being put into some bill. I can resist and
will resist, and maybe I can be run over as part of some backroom deal.
But as a freestanding measure, this bill will never pass as a
freestanding measure as long as I am in the Senate.
I thank the Chair for allowing me to speak this long. This is an
important issue and I feel strongly about it. I want people to know
about it.
If our colleagues are ready to debate this issue, to quote a famous
Shakespeare play:
Lay on, Macduff,
And damn'd be he that first cries, ``Hold, enough!''
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The minority leader.
Mr. DASCHLE. Mr. President, we have colleagues on the floor who are
waiting to speak. I apologize to them for breaking in ahead of them. I
appreciate their kindness in allowing me to respond briefly to the
comments of the Senator from Texas.
I can't believe what I have just heard, frankly. I am really amazed,
and I may take a longer time at a later date to respond. I do not even
know where to begin. But let me make four points very quickly.
First, to the point made by the Senator from Texas that somehow we
are holding up the H-1B bill, that could not be further off the mark.
That is not true.
I have suggested to Senator Lott and to others that we would be
willing to take a very short time agreement, period; it is over; let's
have the vote.
I think what he said was we are trying to hijack the bill. What is it
about offering an amendment that hijacks a piece of legislation? We are
not hijacking anything. We are simply asking that we use the regular
order here. Let's have the vote. Let's have the vote. We can do it this
afternoon.
Second, with regard to this notion that somehow we are making illegal
activity legal, I wonder if the Senator from Texas has looked at the
Statute of Liberty recently--the Statue of Liberty welcoming those
oppressed from around the world.
What is wrong with granting fairness to all immigrants regardless of
circumstance? Why do we draw a distinction?
That is all we are suggesting--that we not draw any distinctions
here; that if you come from El Salvador or Haiti that you ought to have
the same rights as if you came from Cuba. We are simply saying we want
some basic fairness. We are not condoning any illegal activity. He
knows that.
Third, I must say that it seems that it is the Senator from Texas who
is shedding crocodile tears--in his case, for people who have been
waiting in a long line to become American citizens. I am sympathetic to
these people too. But, with the passage of the H-1B bill that I know
the Senator from Texas will vote for, we are going to allow 600,000
people--over three years--to go to the front of the line. We are going
to put them at the front of the line. Never mind those 7 million people
he just said were waiting. We are going to put them at the front of the
line because they are filling high-paying, high-skilled jobs. Never
mind the individuals who fill the thousands of available low-paying,
low-skilled jobs. It is only the high-skilled workers we are interested
in? To them, we say go to the front of the line. But if you work in a
nursing home, if you work in a restaurant, if you work for the minimum
wage, we say get back to the end of the line.
Fourth, let me correct this notion that somehow Democratic Senators
are out of sync. This isn't our legislation. This is the legislation
that virtually the entire Hispanic community has said they need. I
didn't draft it. We worked with the Hispanic community to draft it. A
large number of those people who the distinguished Senator from Texas
said voted for him in the last election were the ones who came to this
Senate, and said: Fix this problem. Fix it.
We are not out of sync. We are trying to respond, as we all must do,
to legitimate problems in the Latino community, and the Liberian
community. Fairness is what we are asking for.
We are not alone. It is the other side that is out there all by
themselves. I know the distinguished Senator from Nevada, the Assistant
Democratic Leader, has a list that Senator Kennedy initially
constructed, of 31 national organizations, including the National
Restaurant Association, the Chamber of Commerce, and the National
Retail Federation, that all believe we should pass these immigration
reforms.
These organizations are not supporting sanctifying or somehow
justifying illegal activity. How does the Senator from Texas possibly
explain to the Chamber of Commerce that they are condoning illegal
activity? For Heaven's sake.
That is why I say I don't believe what I just heard. I can't believe
anybody would come to the floor and say those things. But they were
said. They deserve a response, and I hope our colleagues will keep them
in perspective.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Rhode Island.
Mr. REED. Mr. President, I yield such time as I may consume from the
Democratic time.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. REED. Thank you, Mr. President.
Mr. President, there has been much discussion about the Latino and
Immigrant Fairness Act. I think it is useful and appropriate to focus
on precisely what this act does.
First, in 1997 Congress passed the Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central
American Relief Act. Essentially, this bill granted permanent residency
to
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Nicaraguans and Cubans who had fled oppressive governments. But we also
recognize that there were thousands of other individuals from Central
America who were fleeing the same type of repression, the same type of
uncertainty in their lives, and violence in their lives. Yet these
individuals were not covered by this legislation.
One of the major provisions of the bill we are discussing is to
recognize these individuals who also have been residing in the United
States, who have been working in the United States, and who have been
contributing to our communities. This is not at all some act of
condoning illegality.
Frankly, in 1997, we recognized that simple justice demanded that we
allow individuals who are living in this country to adjust to permanent
residency. We now want to expand that principle of fairness and decency
to the others from that region.
In addition, there are other areas of the world which have the same
types of violence, chaos, and turmoil. Principally I have been active
on behalf of the Liberians who are here--many since the early 1990s
civil war in their country.
This is not about condoning or recognizing lawlessness. It is about
fairness.
In fact, our immigration policy is such that we certainly recognize
and extend extraordinary opportunities to Cubans who flee their country
without documentation, simply by arriving on the shore, have argument
or the opportunity to make the case to stay here. If we can do that for
one particular group, I think in the context of the turmoil and chaos
we have seen in Central America, we can do it for other groups. That is
at the core of this legislation.
Second, we have, since 1929, established a principle that if one
enters this country and stays long enough and contributes to the
communities in which he or she lives, they will be allowed to adjust to
permanent status--this notion, called the registry date, is the idea
that if you can document your presence in the United States for a long
enough period of time, we will allow you to become a permanent resident
and part of the citizenry.
Another part of the legislation moves the day of registry from 1972
to 1986. I think that recognizes that periodically throughout our
history we face the reality that people have come here and established
themselves, and it would be unfair to send them to their native lands.
We are simply updating that particular date to allow people who have
been residing in this country since 1986 to become permanent residents.
Finally, we would extend provision 245(i) which allows a person who
qualified for a green card or work authorization to obtain a visa
without first leaving the country. One of the changes we made recently
in the immigration law was to require people physically to leave the
United States to apply for a visa to come back in. That is not only an
undue burden, but it complicates infinitely the lives of people who are
working here, living here, and want to become permanent residents.
This is not legislation that condones lawlessness, it is legislation
that is consistent with many legislative acts we have adopted beginning
in the 1920s. It is legislation that recognizes if we are extending
special opportunities to some people in a region, we should also, in
fairness, extend it to others in that same region. This is legislation
that is not particularly novel, but it is eminently and inherently just
and fair and should be before the Senate.
But because of the parliamentary maneuvering and devices used, this
legislation has not been offered in a way we can vote directly on it.
Our plea has been, for months and months and months, to allow an up-or-
down vote. There are serious policy issues regarding this legislation.
People of good conscience can disagree. What is most disagreeable is
that we have not had the opportunity to offer amendments on this
legislation so that we can vote up or down.
There is one part of the bill in which I am particularly interested
because it applies to a group of people who have been residing in our
country for almost a decade, the Liberian population; 10,000 Liberians.
The cause of their stay in the United States was a vicious civil war in
their homeland. Many have been here for years. They have established
themselves. They have been working and paying taxes and not, because
they are subject to temporary protected status, enjoying any particular
public benefits. Many have children who are American citizens.
One such individual, reported today in the Baltimore Sun is Gonlakpor
Gonkpala, 48 years old. He has been living in the United States since
he arrived as a student from Liberia in 1982. He got a degree in
finance at Central State University in Wilberforce, OH, and did
graduate work at Morgan State University. The civil war has prevented
him from returning home. Today he lives in Brockton, MA, where he owns
a three-bedroom house, belongs to a Masonic lodge, and is a member of
the Methodist Church. He manages a CVS pharmacy. But Friday, without
extension of DED, deferred enforced departure, his work authority will
cease and he will be deported back to Liberia.
This is typical of so many people. It seems to me supremely ironic
that as we are taking people from around the world under H-1B visas to
man our industrial and commercial enterprises throughout this country,
we are literally sending people who are already here, working hard,
contributing and making our economy grow, we are sending them back to
Liberia.
At the same time we are proposing to send people back to Liberia, our
State Department is issuing warnings telling American citizens: Don't
go there; it is too dangerous; you are likely to be threatened, if not
worse.
We have been working with colleagues in this body for months to bring
a bill to the floor on a bipartisan basis, Republicans and Democrats.
Yet we have been denied systematically that opportunity. The denial to
us means the status and the lives of 10,000 Liberians in the United
States continue to hang by a very slender thread.
I hope all who embrace the notion of fairness and justice in
immigration will give us the opportunity to vote on this issue. To
date, that has not happened. It is critical because the prospect of
sending these people home is very daunting and dangerous for these
individuals. Liberia today is a democracy in form but not a democracy
in substance. It is plagued with violence, economic turmoil,
uncertainty, and fear. As so many Liberians report to me, it is a place
where they will not be accepted readily. Also, they very well could be
threatened physically. Certainly, they would have difficult problems
adapting. Many face a very difficult choice: Do I leave my American-
born children, American citizens here, and go back, or do I bring them
back to a country that is unprepared to care for them in terms of
health care, education, and other social endeavors?
That is what is at stake. It is the same for so many families who are
Latinos in this country. That is what we are about: The same kind of
simple justice since the same kind of difficult situations faced by the
Liberians are faced by Hispanics. We want to give them a chance to
adjust their status. It is not a recognition of lawlessness, it is in a
sense a recognition of these people's contributions to America and
their commitment to our country.
The situation is one which is especially compelling for me. Our ties
to Liberia are older than any in Africa. The country was established by
freed American slaves. Its capital is Monrovia, named after President
Monroe. It has for years been a place for which Americans and Liberians
have felt a special kinship. Today it is ruled by a President, Charles
Taylor, who has been implicated in crimes of violence in neighboring
country Sierra Leone, who has been nonsupportive of human rights and
political freedoms, who has conducted a regime that is repressive and
rightly criticized by so many.
I don't believe we can or should send thousands of Liberians residing
here back to Liberia. What we have is an opportunity to do something
that is both fair and, I believe, entirely appropriate. But that
opportunity has been frustrated left and right by the unwillingness to
give us the opportunity to bring this measure forward. Later today, we
have an opportunity to vote on a resolution that will allow us at least
to get a vote. We will continue to press on. We will continue to try to
inject justice into our system of immigration, to recognize that there
are thousands and thousands of people who are living here who
desperately want to stay here, who want to continue to
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contribute to America. I hope we recognize their contribution and give
them a chance to stay.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from New Mexico.
Mr. BINGAMAN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent I be allowed to
proceed for up to 10 minutes as in morning business.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. REID addressed the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Nevada.
Mr. REID. On behalf of the minority, we have approximately 90 minutes
left; is that right?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. That is correct.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, I yield 15 minutes to the Senator from Rhode
Island, and yield Senator Kennedy 40 minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Rhode Island is recognized
for 15 minutes.
Mr. REED. Mr. President, I had the opportunity to speak prior to
Senator Bingaman about the issues pending before us with respect to
immigration, and, in particular, with regard to the Liberian community
in the United States--10,000 individuals who are facing immediate
deportation unless the President extends DED, which is the acronym for
deferred enforced departure. I certainly would urge the President to do
that.
As a result of our inability to bring this measure to the floor over
the last several months, there is very little option for these people
except for the Presidential issuance of a DED proclamation. I would
urge him to do that.
But that does not solve the problem. That would essentially give the
Liberians in the United States another year. But still their life would
be tenuous. They would be unsure of whether or not they could stay
through the next year.
As a result, I believe what we must do is come to grips with the
underlying issue, and allow these individuals to adjust to permanent
status in the United States and, hopefully, become citizens of this
country. We have to do that, I think, because each year the equity and
the logic of allowing them to become permanent citizens becomes more
compelling.
It has been 10 years now since many of them came to this country. In
another year it will be 11. At some point, simple justice requires that
they be allowed to make an adjustment to permanent status and become
citizens of this country.
It is important to recognize how the Liberian community got to this
particular juncture. In 1991, in that era of
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violent civil war in Liberia, the Attorney General granted temporary
protected status, recognizing that the chaos in Liberia was so great
that, in good conscience, we could not force these people to return to
Liberia. That TPS status was extended year after year after year, until
very recently when it was determined that the conditions in Liberia
momentarily had stabilized.
But the President, recognizing that what appeared to be a formal
democratic government process in Liberia was, in effect, covering up
great confusion, great chaos, great turmoil in the country, and did not
require the deportation of these individuals but invoked DED.
I have heard on the floor suggestions that our proposal with respect
to Liberia and, indeed with respect to other immigrant groups, is some
novel, unique, first-time attempt to upset the ``majesty'' of our
immigration laws; when, in fact, periodically in the United States we
have recognized that people have come here with temporary documentation
but now have stayed long enough, have contributed to our communities,
and, in doing so, deserve the opportunity to become permanent residents
and citizens.
In 1988, Congress passed a law allowing four national groups that had
been allowed to stay in the U.S. at the Attorney General's discretion
to adjust to permanent resident status: 4,996 Poles who had been here
for 3 years; 378 Ugandans who had been here for 10 years; 565 Afghanis
who had been here for 8 years; and about 1,200 Ethiopians who had been
here for 11 years. So this process of recognizing the reality of the
contribution of people who come here intending initially to stay
temporarily is nothing new.
The 102d Congress passed a law allowing Chinese nationals who had
been granted DED--they were in the same position as Liberians are now--
to adjust to permanent residency after the Tiananmen Square atrocity.
After the Chinese authorities brutally repressed the demonstration of
young students, it was feared that to return these people to China
would place them in great peril--I think a well-founded fear. But over
the next 4 years, 52,000 Chinese changed their status.
So, again, we recognized turmoil in a country, we recognized
individuals are here who established themselves, and we have given them
a chance to adjust. That is simply what we are asking for with respect
to Liberians, with respect to many Central Americans who are here.
In the last Congress, we passed NACARA, which recognized some of the
need and some of the demand to give people from Central America a
chance to establish themselves here permanently. So what we have seen
over the course of many years is a pattern of recognizing the need of
particular groups who come here without documentation or with temporary
protection, who establish themselves, who contribute to their
communities, and who, under our law--both its letter and its spirit--
deserve a chance to adjust their status.
That is at the heart of what we are attempting to do with these
several amendments that we wanted to originally propose to the H-1B
visa bill. I think it is an appropriate vehicle. After all, we are all
supportive of the need of high-tech industry for workers. I think we
can equally be supportive of those people who are working today, not
only in high tech but in a host of enterprises throughout this country,
who face deportation, who face being returned to their homeland. They
are already contributing to our country, yet we have not been able to
bring such measures to the floor for the kind of up-and-down vote that
their situation demands. I hope we can at some point.
It is very critical to the Liberians. It is critical to many other
people. The criticality for Liberians turns, I think, on the conditions
in their own homeland. We have a situation where there was an election.
It was monitored by international authorities. In form it looked
democratic, but in substance it has not resulted in a democratic regime
that is protective of the rights of individuals.
There are numerous examples of human rights abuses that persist today
in Liberia. Last year, for example, human rights organizations
estimated that approximately 100 individuals were victims of
extrajudicial killings, but yet there have been no convictions of
anyone involved in these killings.
I had an individual visit me in my office in Rhode Island who had
just returned from Liberia. He went back there. He is trying to promote
commerce and industry between the two countries of the United States
and Liberia. And he is associated with a political party that is out of
favor at the moment over there.
He was traveling with one of their principal politicians. He was in a
car, leaving a particular village, and they were warned to go the other
way because an ambush had been set up to either kidnap them or kill
them. They avoided that situation by a few moments and the intercession
of someone who gave them advice to go the other way. I am told this is
very common in Liberia.
We have also seen eyewitness accounts of incidents in villages. Last
year a village was surrounded by Government security forces. All the
men were taken away. Their fate is yet to be determined.
In 1999, the State Department issued a report, their country report,
which stated that Government security forces, sometimes torture, beat,
and otherwise abuse and humiliate citizens. Victims reported being held
in water-filled holes in the ground, being injured when fires were
kindled on grates over their heads, suffering beatings, and sexual
abuse. All of this is attributed to Government security forces.
President Taylor has stated that these reports of human rights abuses
are simply the results of these human rights organizations trying to
interfere with his country. I think that could not be further from the
truth.
There is a pattern. There is evidence. There is persistent evidence
of these types of abuses.
In 1999, Government security personnel were involved in the looting
of 1,450 tons of food intended for Sierra Leone refugees. And they
stole vehicles belonging to nongovernmental organizations that were
sent to Liberia to help refugees in Sierra Leone.
Prison conditions are harsh in the country. There are reports of
torture, of detainees being held without charges. Government security
forces continue to harass and threaten political opposition figures.
Freedom of the press is not a reality. The press is repressed rather
than encouraged.
We find a situation that is consistent throughout the country with
these types of human rights abuses, so much so that our State
Department has suggested and advised Americans not to travel to
Liberia.
So we are on the verge of a decision, I hope, by the White House to
extend deferred enforced departure, a decision that is entirely
appropriate but insufficient to deal with the underlying issues. The
underlying issues involve 10,000 Liberians who have come to this
country, who have been offered sanctuary--we must applaud the
generosity of spirit that motivated the offer of temporary protected
status--have established themselves, and now wait with uncertainty and
doubt about their future.
Simply to extend this uncertainty and this doubt year by year by year
is cruel but also fails to recognize that they have become so much a
part of our communities in such a constructive way. I mentioned before
an individual who has a master's degree, who is now managing a CVS
store in Massachusetts, who owns his home. He is somebody who is
contributing to our economy today. He is someone who is here making our
economy work for us. Yet he faces the prospect of being denied the
ability to work, come Friday, and being potentially deported back to a
country which is unwilling in many respects to accept him back.
For many reasons, we have to be supportive of this effort to bring
this legislation to the floor. What is so frustrating is that for many
months now, working in the way I believe the Senate works, making the
case to my colleagues, getting the support across the aisle of several
colleagues for bipartisan legislation, of working for the kind of
support that would be necessary to pass this legislation, but
ultimately being frustrated because it became quite clear there was no
real intent to give this community, to give this legislation a vote, up
or down, on the floor. That is the wrong way to use the process.
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I don't think anyone here should be afraid of taking a vote on this
particular measure. One could disagree with the policy. One could
disagree with the principle, articulate those differences and then
vote. What we find, time after time after time, is that type of
principled, rational, careful legislative debate and decision is
frustrated by the decision that we can only recognize one immigration
issue, and that is ensuring that high-technology companies have
sufficient workers. We can't recognize the many other immigration
issues, the many other individuals who cry out for simple justice and
cry out for the chance to be good Americans, to be recognized as such,
to have the chance to change their status to permanent residents and,
we hope, ultimately to become citizens of this great country.
We can do better. I don't think we have to limit our vision and our
efforts and our activities simply to keep our economy moving forward. I
think we can recognize something else, to ensure that we are fair and
just in our dealings with thousands of people who come to this country
and, by the way, who contribute significantly to our economy.
I hope we can do both. I hope in the next few days we can resolve
this impasse and we can get a vote, and we can pass this measure with
respect to the Liberians but also with respect to Latinos and other
groups who have been here and continue to be part of our great country
and want their contribution recognized with the opportunity to become
citizens of this country.
With that, I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. By previous order of the Senate, the Senator
from Massachusetts is recognized for up to 40 minutes.
Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. President, I thank my friend and colleague, Senator
Reed, for his presentation and strong support. I've had the good
opportunity, since I first came to the Judiciary Committee, to be on
the Subcommittee on Immigration. We have provided temporary protected
status for probably 14 different nations over the past years. And we've
also provided the green cards for six of those countries, more than
half of those countries. What the good Senator has been pressing the
Senate on is to take action--that would be consistent with past
action--particularly with the guns of war that continue to wreak such
havoc in Liberia. I think it is a very compelling case. I am in strong
support.
Mr. President, for months, Democrats and Republicans have given their
strong support for the H-1B high-tech visa legislation. In addition,
Democrats have tried--but without Republican support--to offer the
Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act.
We have worked hard to reach an agreement to vote on both of these
important bills. We could easily have voted on the Latino legislation
as part of the high-tech visa bill, but our Republican colleagues have
repeatedly blocked every effort we have made to do so. The Republican
leadership is determined to prevent this basic issue from coming to a
vote in the Senate.
Our Republican friends tell us that the Latino and Immigrant Fairness
Act is a poison pill, that it will undermine the H-1B high-tech visa
legislation before the Senate. But if Republicans are truly supportive
of the Latino legislative agenda, that cannot possibly be true.
Yesterday, Senator Gramm accused Democrats of ``putting politics in
front of people.'' Is Senator Gramm prepared to say that to those who
would benefit from the Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act, people such
as Francisco?
Francisco and his wife completed applications for legalization and
attempted to submit them to the INS. The INS refused to accept the
applications, because Francisco and his wife briefly left the United
States during the application period without INS permission. The courts
have ruled against this INS practice, but Francisco and his wife were
never granted legalization. They have worked legally with temporary
permission while awaiting the court decision on their case.
If they are not permitted to work legally in the United States, they
will not be able to support their three U.S. citizen children. With
permission to work, they have been able to find jobs that accommodate a
hearing disability that affects one of their children. If they lose
their work permit, they may not be able to find work. They constantly
fear detention and deportation.
It is shameful that the Senate refuses even to allow a vote on these
issues of fundamental fairness for immigrant families. It is
Republicans--not Democrats--who are playing politics with the lives of
those who have come to our country as refugees from persecution in
other countries. The hypocrisy is flagrant. Our Republican colleagues
pretend to court the Latino vote across the country in this election
year. But when the chips are down, they refuse to act.
The Senate Republican leadership can't have it both ways. Either they
are part of the solution, or they are part of the problem. They can't
call themselves friends of the Latino community, while working to
prevent the Latino Fairness Act from becoming law.
Republican opposition to this legislation is so intense that they
continue to delay passage of the H-1B legislation with their procedural
tactics. For reasons that no one understands, the Republican leadership
filed a meaningless cloture petition last week, and now they have filed
three additional cloture petitions. I ask my Republican colleagues,
wouldn't it be easier to allow a vote on the Latino and Immigrant
Fairness Act? If you support the Latino community, if the priorities of
the Latino community are your priorities too, we can pass both bills
and move forward.
The choice is clear. Instead of adopting long overdue family
immigration reforms that have broad support from the business,
religious, and labor communities, Republicans would prefer to stall
action on the high tech visa bill and block a vote on the Latino
Fairness Act. I urge my Republican colleagues to end this shameful
hypocrisy and allow the vote that simple justice and fundamental
fairness demand.
But these procedural road blocks won't stop those who support this
legislation. After all, the immigrant community--particularly the
Latino community--has waited far too long for the fundamental justice
that the Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act will provide. These issues
are not new to Congress. The immigrants who will benefit from this
legislation should have received permanent status from the INS long
ago.
Contrary to remarks made on the Senate floor earlier today, these
issues have been around for a long, long time. If my friend, the
chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, wanted to have a hearing,
he could have scheduled a hearing at any time over the past 3 years.
And if we had had such a hearing, it would have demonstrated that this
legislation is not what he described as a ``broad amnesty for illegal
immigrants.'' It is a measured bill necessary to reunite families and
ensure that American businesses have the workers they need. He would
have learned that contrary to Republican concerns that this bill would
``let everybody in,'' the legislation only seeks to create fairness
where there is injustice and restore longstanding immigration policy
objectives, and is similar to actions Congress has taken often in the
past.
The Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act includes parity for Central
Americans, Haitians, nationals of the former Soviet bloc, and
Liberians. In 1997, Congress enacted the Nicaraguan Adjustment and
Central American Relief Act, which granted permanent residence to
Nicaraguans and Cubans who had fled their repressive governments.
Other similarly situated Central Americans, Soviet bloc nationals,
and Haitians were only provided an opportunity to apply for green cards
under a much more difficult and narrower standard and much more
cumbersome procedures. Hondurans and Liberians received nothing.
The Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act will eliminate the disparities
for all of these asylum seekers, and give them all the same opportunity
that Nicaraguans and Cubans now have to become permanent residents. It
will create a fair, uniform set of procedures for all immigrants from
this region who have been in this country since 1995.
The Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act will also provide long overdue
relief to all immigrants who, because of
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bureaucratic mistakes, were prevented from receiving green cards many
years ago. In 1986, Congress passed the Immigration Reform and Control
Act, which included legalization for persons who could demonstrate that
they had been present in the United States since before 1982. There was
a one-year period to file.
However, the INS misinterpreted the provisions in the 1986 Act, and
thousands of otherwise qualified immigrants were denied the opportunity
to make timely applications.
Several successful class action lawsuits were filed on behalf of
individuals who were harmed by these INS misinterpretations of the law,
and the courts required the INS to accept filings for these
individuals. As one court decision stated: ``The evidence is clear that
the INS' . . . regulations deterred many aliens who would otherwise
qualify for legalization from applying.''
To add insult to injury, however, the 1996 immigration law stripped
the courts of jurisdiction to review INS decisions, and the Attorney
General ruled that the law superceded the court cases. As a result of
these actions, this group of immigrants has been in legal limbo,
fighting government bureaucracy for over 14 years.
Our bill will alleviate this problem by allowing all individuals who
have resided in the U.S. prior to 1986 to obtain permanent residency,
including those who were denied legalization because of the INS
misinterpretation, or who were turned away by the INS before applying.
Our bill would also amend some of the procedural blocks in terms of
normalizing one's green card situation.
The nation's history has long been tainted with periods of anti-
immigrant sentiment. The Naturalization Act of 1790 prevented Asian
immigrants from attaining citizenship. The Chinese Exclusion Act of
1882 was passed to reduce the number of Chinese laborers. The Asian
Exclusion Act and the National Origins Act which made up the
Immigration Act of 1924, were passed to block immigration from the
``Asian Pacific Triangle''--Japan, China, the Philippines, Laos,
Thailand, Cambodia, Singapore, Korea, Vietnam, Indonesia, Burma, India,
Sri Lanka, and Malaysia--and prevent them from entering the United
States for permanent residence. Those discriminatory provisions weren't
repealed until 1965. The Mexican Farm Labor Supply Program--the Bracero
Program--provided Mexican labor to the United States under harsh and
unacceptable conditions and wasn't repealed until 1964.
The Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act provides us with an opportunity
to end a series of unjust provisions in our current immigration laws,
and build on the most noble aspects of our American immigrant
tradition.
It restores fairness to the immigrant community and fairness in the
nation's immigration laws. It is good for families, it is good for
American business, and it is good for our economy.
Last summer, Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan said,
Under the conditions that we now confront, we should be
very carefully focused on the contribution which skilled
people from abroad, [as well as] unskilled people from
abroad, can contribute to the country, as they have for
generation after generation. The pool of people seeking jobs
continues to decline. At some point, it must have an impact.
If we can open up our immigration rolls significantly, that
clearly will make [the unemployment rate's effect on
inflation] less and less of a problem.
The Essential Worker Immigration Coalition, a consortium of
businesses and trade associations and other organizations shares this
view and strongly supports the Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act. This
coalition includes the health care and home care associations, hotel,
motel, restaurant and tourism associations, manufacturing and retail
concerns, and the construction and transportation industries.
These key industries have added their voices to the broad coalition
of business, labor, religious, Latino and other immigrant organizations
in support of the Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act.
The coalition of supporters includes Americans for Tax Reform,
Empower America, the AFL-CIO, the Mexican American Legal Defense and
Educational Fund, the National Council of La Raza, the League of United
Latin American Citizens, the National Association of Latino Elected and
Appointed Officials, the Anti-Defamation League, the National
Conference of Catholic Bishops, the Union of Needletrades and
Industrial Textile Employees, and the Service Employees International
Union.
Few days remain in this Congress, but my Democratic colleagues and I
are committed to doing all we can to see that both the Latino and
Immigrant Fairness Act and the H-1B high tech visa legislation become
law this year.
As others have pointed out, we have been discussing this issue now
for several days. There is, as the indication of the votes suggest,
overwhelming support for H-1B. There is virtual unanimity in the Senate
to pass the H-1B program. I was very hopeful that we would be able to
offer an amendment with a training component that would be available to
Americans, so that the American worker would be able to obtain the
level of skills which these new immigrants are bringing here to the
jobs in the United States.
The average income for the H-1B worker is $47,000; it is not
$150,000. Really, all that is necessary for Americans to fill the
overwhelming majority of these jobs is training and skills. There is a
small percentage of very highly skilled and talented individuals in the
H-1B program who add an additional dimension in terms of our economy.
But the great majority--the average, as I mentioned--is $47,000.
We only require a $500 application fee now. An immigrant family has
to pay $1,000 to get a green card to cover the processing. If we were
to require a $2,000 fee for the Microsofts, the multibillion-dollar
companies, for every H-1B application they have, we would have a fund
of about $280 million a year. That fund would be allocated between the
National Science Foundation and the existing workforce boards, under
the bipartisan workforce legislation that we passed 2 years ago. It
would be allocated on the basis of competition to these communities
that develop training programs for high skills. That would include the
employers, the workers, and the educational institutions. It would give
them some continued resources to be able to provide the skills to
Americans to meet this particular challenge.
We don't have a crisis in terms of workers; we only have a crisis in
terms of skills. So we ought to be able to develop the kind of support
so that out into the future these jobs will be fulfilled by Americans.
But we are not able to offer that amendment under the cloture motion,
even though it is directly relevant and even though we offered and
debated those in the conference and even though it seems to me to be
directly on target with regard to the underlying amendment. We ought to
be able to do that.
I don't know what the problem is among those on the other side in
refusing to permit us to develop a program so these jobs can be
fulfilled by Americans. That seems to me to make sense. Good jobs, good
benefits--why shouldn't they be for Americans? The only thing that is
lacking is the skilled training. Is it asking too much to ask the
Microsofts and the great successful IT businesses for a $2,000
application fee for the H-1Bs? I don't think so.
We can develop that fund and develop the training program--not create
a new bureaucracy--and use the existing training programs with
additional funding that would be targeted for that purpose, and also
support additional funding for the National Science Foundation, for
outreach programs, for women and minorities in these high-tech areas to
support those kinds of efforts because there is an enormous absence of
women and minorities in the area of these H-1B jobs.
There is no reason in the world that we should not have an outreach
program. There are excellent programs in terms of developing interest,
and programming in terms of women and minorities in the high-tech area.
They need additional support. We can use some resources to expedite the
processing of the H-1B visas.
Massachusetts yields to no one in terms of the high-tech aspects of
our industry. We are second to California in the small business
innovative research programs. Half of all health patents created in
this country are in my own State of Massachusetts. We get high awards
in terms of peer review for research. But when I talk to either the
private sector or talk to others, they
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say: Right on. They don't question the importance of getting additional
skilled workers.
It is difficult to understand the reluctance and the resistance for
this. It is true that 30 years ago if someone worked, for example, in
my State in the Four Rivers Shipyard, their grandfather worked there,
their father worked there, they generally had a high school education.
Every employee who enters the job force now is going to have eight
different jobs. What it means in terms of the continued growth of that
employee is that there is going to be continuing education and training
programs that are going to be available to them. That is just obvious.
If we don't understand that, we don't understand what is happening in
terms of the needs of American highly competitive, high-tech industries
in this Nation, and for the most part other industries as well.
We are denied the opportunity to offer that amendment. We would be
glad to enter into a time limitation. We are denied that opportunity.
We are denied the opportunity in terms of the Latino fairness, even
though, as I have mentioned, we have a court decision that found for
these particular individuals. But for the actions of the Immigration
and Naturalization Service, they would have had their position adjusted
and would have had a green card. It was certainly the intention of
Congress at that time that they should. We are trying to remedy that
situation. We are denied that opportunity.
We are denied the opportunity to give fairness to the other Central
Americans and others who were given the assurance that it was just a
matter that we were being rushed at the end of the last Congress and we
were unable to get the clearance for these other Central Americans. We
were denied that opportunity. We had the judgment for the Cubans and
Nicaraguans but not for the Guatemalans, Haitians, Hondurans, and
Eastern Europeans. They were given assurance that they would.
Republicans and Democrats alike indicated that we are prepared to vote
on that with a short time limit. But we are denied that opportunity as
well.
We find ourselves in this extraordinary situation with all of the
machinations on the other side to prohibit us from having a vote. Maybe
they have the votes. They probably do, although I somehow feel that if
we were to get to this fairness in the light of day, it would be
difficult to argue against it. It would be difficult to argue against
why on the one hand we are increasing the immigration for high skills
and for the high-skilled industries, and on the other hand we are
refusing to provide additional manpower and womanpower for many of the
other industries with the kind of support that they have in terms of
the Chamber of Commerce, labor, and church groups that say they should
be able to get it.
If we are going to have sauce for the goose, let's have sauce for the
gander. Beyond that, they ought to treat these individuals fairly. They
have been treated unfairly because of the actions that have been taken
in denying them the kinds of protections and rights that they otherwise
would have received.
They have the compelling argument that they ought to be treated
similarly as the H-1Bs; and, second, because they been denied fairness
because of other actions that have been taken by the Government.
It is difficult as we go through this to understand why we are being
denied the opportunity to bring this up. It is very difficult to
explain to our colleagues in the Hispanic caucus, let alone to church
leaders and other groups, why fair is not fair. That is where we are.
The extent to which the Republican leadership is going to deny us this
opportunity is absolutely mind-boggling. Why not just let the chips
fall where they may? No. We are being denied that opportunity. We are
not even permitted a vote on it.
That is becoming sort of the custom. It never used to be that way in
the Senate. The Senate used to be a place where you could have the
clash of ideas, and also the opportunity to express them and get some
degree of accountability. But we are being denied, on Latino fairness,
to ever get a vote.
We are denied the opportunity to have another vote on minimum wage.
We are denied the opportunity to get a vote on the prescription drug
program.
We are denied the opportunity on Patients' Bill of Rights.
We are denied the opportunity on the education programs.
We can't get those. We can understand people voting different ways,
and maybe voting for positions I favor and against positions that I
support. That was the way it was generally done in the Senate. But we
cannot have that opportunity.
Mr. President, I reserve the remainder of my time and suggest the
absence of a quorum and ask the time be charged equally.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered. The clerk
will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. GRAMM. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. GRAMM. Mr. President, I had the opportunity, earlier today, to
talk
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about the effort by Senator Daschle and the minority to suspend the
rules of the Senate and to bring before this body an amnesty provision.
In essence, this provision would reward people who violated the laws of
this country by coming to the United States illegally when we have
millions of people waiting to come the right way, legally.
After I left, the minority leader, in response to what I said, asked
if I had seen the Statue of Liberty lately. Let me assure him that not
only have I seen it, but that when my grandfather, who came to this
country by way of Ellis Island, saw the Statue of Liberty he rejoiced
in it. I would also like to ask the people who are for this bill, if
they have they seen the Supreme Court Building lately? ``Equal Justice
Under Law.''
Without law, we can't have liberty. Without law, we can't have an
organized society. We corrupt the legal system when we have a set of
rules that people are supposed to operate under, and then for political
reasons in an election year, say to all of those who have abided by the
law in waiting to come to America, that they are going to be treated
differently than people who violated the law in coming to this country.
I have seen the Statue of Liberty and I rejoice in it. I want people
to give us the best they have so we can build a greater country. But I
want people to come, as my grandfather came, as my wife's grandparents
came--I want them to come legally.
Second, the H-1B program is a temporary work program for highly
skilled people. It is an entirely different issue than the issue before
us, which is an effort to waive the rules of the Senate and bring
before us a bill that would grant amnesty to and reward people who have
violated the law. I do not believe my colleagues are going to do this.
I know our Democrat colleagues believe this is good politics and that
this is going to get them more votes, but I don't believe it. As I said
before, I would be willing to let this election, and every other
election for the remaining history of this country, be determined on
this issue and this issue alone.
I do not believe it is good politics to basically say that we are
going to reward people who violate the law at the expense of those who
abide by the law.
Also, the idea that somehow immigrants support this bill I think is
outrageous. I think those who have abided by the law resent the fact
that we routinely reward people who violate the law.
Finally, in 1986 we adopted an amnesty provision, and that was
supposed to be the final granting of amnesty. Now we are back trying to
renegotiate the deal. The point is, every time we grant one of these
amnesty provisions, we say to people all over the world: Violate the
law, come to America illegally, and you will ultimately be rewarded for
it.
I say to people all over the world: Come to America legally, and
secondly I say, we need to promote free enterprise to individual
freedom where we can take America to them. Not everybody who goes to
bed at night praying to come to America is going to get to come. We
cannot have the whole world in America, but we can take America to them
by promoting the policies worldwide that have made us the greatest and
richest country in the history of the world.
I yield the floor.
Several Senators addressed the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Minnesota.
Mr. WELLSTONE. Mr. President, S. 2045 and the Lott amendment would
raise the H-1B visa cap for highly skilled workers, and there seems to
be considerable support on both sides of the aisle for raising this
cap.
Much has been said about the shortage of skilled workers for the
information technology industry. In my State of Minnesota, the
Minnesota Department of Economic Security has said that over the next
decade, the industry will need about 8,800 more skilled workers, but at
the same time they see only about 1,000 workers a year being trained
for such jobs. I am sympathetic to what the business community is
saying in Minnesota and around the country. But I think there is a
right way and a wrong way to raise the H-1B visa cap. I rise to speak
about what I think would be the right way.
The only way we can do it the right way is if we are able to bring
amendments to the floor to improve this bill. That is how you are a
good Senator representing people in your State.
One amendment would call for more resources for high-skilled training
for workers in our country, for men and women who want nothing more
than to be able to obtain a living wage job, earn a decent standard of
living, take care of their families. We ought to make sure that there
is a significant investment of resources for such skill development and
job training. The Kennedy amendment would have done that. We are not
able to do that because we are shut out from amendments.
If we are going to raise the H-1B visa cap, we ought to make sure
that those workers with more advanced skills that Americans could not
obtain the training for right away--that is to say, workers who have a
PhD or a master's degree--would be the ones who, first of all, would be
coming to our country from other countries.
That way, you make sure working people in our country who can easily
be trained for these jobs are not shut out. My understanding is that
Senator Kennedy will be offering a carve-out amendment after the
cloture vote.
Then there is rural America. The Center for Rural Affairs, located in
Nebraska, came out with a study that one-third of households in rural
counties in a six-State region, including Minnesota, have annual
incomes of less than $15,000 a year. Information technology companies
say we need skilled workers. People in rural America have a great work
ethic. Farmers and other rural citizens tell me: Paul, we would like
nothing more than to have the opportunity to receive the training for
these jobs and then we could telework, do it from our homes and farms,
or from a satellite office. We can make a decent wage. Why don't we put
some focus on that?
I have an amendment, the telework amendment, and I have worked on
this for the better part of a year. Whether it is Native Americans,
first Americans, who want the opportunity for skills development or
whether it be rural people, I wanted to bring an amendment to the floor
that would have provided funding for this telework. I think this
amendment would have made all the sense in the world.
Rural workers need jobs. High-tech employers need workers. This
amendment would have found a solution to these common challenges. It
would authorize competitive grants to qualified organizations for 5-
year projects to connect and broker employment in the private sector
through telework to a population of rural workers, setting up centers
of distance learning around the country in rural America, where we can
make the connection between rural citizens who so desire the
opportunity to have the skills and find the employment and the
information technology companies that need these skilled workers.
It seems to me that if we are going to have such a piece of
legislation on the floor--we would be respectful, of course, of skilled
immigrants coming to our country to do the work. I am all for that. But
at the same time, we would also make sure citizens within our own
country who desire the opportunity to receive the skills and job
training to obtain these jobs are given such an opportunity.
Cloture on the underlying bill would also doom another amendment that
I think is necessary to improve this legislation. We cannot escape the
irony that we are proceeding to pass a bill that would bring more
foreign nationals into this country to work in high-tech companies,
while we have done nothing to help literally thousands of immigrants
who have been living in this country for years and paying taxes and
often raising their children as American citizens. If we are going to
bring more foreign workers into this country, it is only fair and just
to take into account people who are already here, already contributing
to our economy, and who already have families who have only known
America as their home. It is hypocrisy, in my view, to do one without
the other.
There are thousands of taxpaying immigrants who have been waiting
years for an adjustment of status to permanent residency. Many of them
have done everything they are required to do to stay in this country.
But through a bureaucratic mixup, a change in laws, or another reason,
largely beyond their control, they have become ``out of status.'' It is
for these people that we must--I use the word ``must''--pass the
Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act. Instead, we have moved to pass the
H-1B bill and we ignore them. We ignore them, while we open our doors
to more high-tech workers. With so many of our neighbors, our
coworkers, our fathers, our mothers, and friends facing possible
deportation to countries that have not been their home, I do not know
how we can stand here and
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argue that increasing the H-1B cap to admit new foreign nationals
should pass without bringing fairness and relief to those who are
already here. I include a thousand wonderful people in the Liberian
community in my own State of Minnesota.
I don't know how a nation that believes in fairness could say that if
you fled Castro, you can stay, but if you fled the death squads in El
Salvador, you must go. I don't know how a nation that calls for more
family values and responsible fatherhood would deport the father of
American children such as JoJo Mendoza of Minnesota, who has worked for
years building our economy, our community, and our Nation. Mr. Mendoza
was deported 2 weeks ago from Minnesota. He left his children, who are
Americans.
I would be prepared to vote for raising the H-1B visa cap if it were
done in the right way. I do not think the Lott amendment is the right
way. I hope we can reach an agreement to do it in the right way--by
permitting amendments that would make this bill one I could support.
Finally, I say one more time--and I feel as if I have said it so many
times that perhaps I have deafened all the gods--we cannot be good
Senators, whether we are Democrats or Republicans, when we no longer
have a process that allows unlimited debate and allows any Senator to
come to the floor with amendments that he or she believes will lead to
an improvement in the quality of life of the people we represent. I
have said to the majority leader a million times--he is not on the
floor now, but I don't feel badly saying it because I have said it so
many times when he has been on the floor of the Senate--I believe the
way in which we have proceeded, the way in which the majority party
doesn't want to debate amendments and doesn't want to vote on
controversial questions, robs the Senate of its vitality. It makes it
hard for any of us to be good Senators.
Here I am giving a speech. I like speaking on the floor of the
Senate. I am honored to speak on the floor of the Senate. I get goose
bumps every time I come to the Chamber. I love this Chamber, but I
would rather be on the floor doing what I consider to be the work of a
Senator, which is with an amendment that would set up centers for
distance learning, that would focus on telework, that would be so
important to so many rural Americans, including so many citizens in
Minnesota, that would connect the need of the information technology
industry for more skilled workers with a strong desire of rural people
to be able to have the training, I say to my colleague from Idaho, and
then telework from a satellite office from their home, a good job with
a decent wage, with decent health care benefits.
I can't introduce that amendment to this bill with the way the
majority leader has proceeded. I can't improve this bill. I can't
represent the people in greater Minnesota and rural Minnesota, many of
whom are really hurting given the farm economy. For that reason, I
certainly will vote for the motion to move forward on the immigrant
fairness legislation, but I won't vote for this H-1B legislation as
brought to the floor by the majority leader. I will not vote for
cloture.
I am going to insist over and over again, as is my right as a
Senator, to come to this floor and introduce and debate amendments that
I think will make our country better. My solution could be another
Senator's horror. I understand that. But the beauty and the greatness
of the Senate, when we are at our best, is not this process, but it is
the process of amending and debating, disposing of amendments, voting
yes or no, and having more amendments to deal with, and then work to
pass the legislation. I think we are making a terrible mistake in
proceeding the way we have. I do not think it is for the good of the
Senate as an institution, and I don't think it is for the good of
Minnesota or the country.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Idaho is recognized.
Mr. CRAIG. Mr. President, we will vote later this afternoon on a
motion to change the way we proceed here to allow an amendment to come
to the floor of the kind the Senator from Minnesota has spoken to.
This is an interesting process because the beauty of the process of
the Senate that the Senator speaks of is that there are rules and
procedures by which we live. Historically, most Americans understand
that when they elect a majority to the Congress, they expect that
majority, under the Constitution, to form a Congress and to form rules
and to be able to manage that Congress. Under that responsibility of
management, which this time the Republicans have under the majority
leader of Trent Lott, there are the rules that each one of us as
Senators have a right to enforce and to live by; that is, that we are
all equal as our Founding Fathers assured that every State must be.
But it also recognized that there are more important procedures and
processes that keep us functioning and functioning well. It is the rule
of the majority, and in some instances in our Senate it is a
supermajority that must move, giving the minority even greater rights
to speak out.
While the Senator from Minnesota may be frustrated, clearly he has
the right to make every effort to enjoy his right. But if a majority or
a supermajority says, no, that is not the way we will proceed, and this
is what we must do to carry on the business of the Senate and the
Government, then while it may collectively have chosen to say to the
Senator from Minnesota this is the way we are going to go, it is very
difficult to suggest that is an outright denial of his right.
We are here to deal with allowing people from other countries to come
to this country to work and not only to share in the American dream, to
enhance the American dream, but to share in the freedoms and the
benefits that all citizens in our country have.
While we as a country have always recognized the importance of our
existence, we are a conglomerate as a country. We are not one people in
the sense of one nationality or one color or one religion. We are all
Americans, and we live under this marvelous system. We are brought
together by our Constitution, and oneness under that Constitution which
is really spelling out the rights and the freedoms of us as citizens.
We take seriously allowing others to come. They must come by rule,
and they must come by law, or we become a nation quite lawless.
Certainly a lawless nation is a nation that loses control of its
boundaries, loses control of its borders, and, in fact, could lose
control of its institutions--the very institutions of which the Senator
from Minnesota and I are so proud.
We, as a country, have established laws. We have said this is the way
a foreign national can enter our country to enjoy those things that are
basically American. Some would choose to enter illegally; in other
words, they would choose to violate the process or to violate the law.
We have before us today what we consider is waiving the rules of the
Senate to consider a bill that basically says it is OK to violate the
law; that we will change the law now that you violated it to make you
legal.
I don't think American citizens with their full faith as it relates
to how our institutions of government work are going to be very excited
about that idea. They, too, may once have been a foreign national and
became a naturalized American citizen. My family was five or six or
seven generations ago. I am not sure when. But in the late 1700s, they
were once foreigners coming from the great land of Scotland.
I have tremendous empathy for and have always voted when it came to
changing our immigration laws or adjusting them to accommodate the
needs of our country and the needs of our citizenry. But we as an
institution and responsible as caretakers under the Constitution cannot
reward the breaking of the law by simply changing it and saying it is
OK now. It is OK if you can make it across the border into this
country. Somehow we will accommodate you and change the law.
A sovereign nation is not a nation if it cannot control its borders--
if it cannot police its borders and control the process of movement
across those borders, both exit and entry. That is what creates a
nation. That is what constitutes a nation. That is what identifies us
as a nation. We are not one indivisible world. We are one indivisible
nation under God. Nations make up a world.
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There is a fundamental debate going on on the floor today, and it
spells a difference.
My colleague from Texas talked about the millions and millions of
foreign nationals who have applied to become American citizens, or at
least legal as foreign nationals in our country. They stand in line.
They work the procedure. It is complicated. We want it to be
complicated. We do not want all of the world at our doorstep, nor would
any other nation of the world. But we have always recognized that the
vitality of our country is the uniqueness of our character, and our
character is made up of many, many who come here and are not only the
beneficiaries of our country but the great contributors to our country.
They are many, and they are all different. Once they are here and once
they are legal, under the process of law then they become part of that
one nation indivisible.
There is a very important vote this afternoon that will occur about
4:30. It will be to decide whether we are going to change the law to
allow those who came here illegally to all of a sudden be legal and,
therefore, send a message to the world that there is no consequence. If
you can make it across the border, you are home free.
That is not the way you sustain a nation. That is not the way you
identify a border. That is not the way you protect the strength of our
sovereignty. Diversity is important. We all recognize that because we
are all part of this great diversity. We became the melting pot of the
world, as so many down through the years have spoken of, but in doing
so we did it through process and procedure--orderly with responsibility
under the law. That is why this vote this afternoon will be so
important.
I hope the Senate will not choose to waive our rule or waive our
procedures for the purpose of an amendment that would clearly change
the character of the law and allow an illegal alien to have benefits
from having been the performer of an illegal act.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from New Jersey.
THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT
Mr. TORRICELLI. Mr. President, in only a matter of 2 or 3 weeks, the
Congress will adjourn--I trust having passed H-1B visas, but in all
likelihood without passing a Patients' Bill of Rights, or,
unfortunately, a prescription drug benefit, and probably without any
real improvement in gun safety legislation.
While many of us will take comfort in helping American high-
technology companies by providing H-1B visas, it is not even a mixed
success. Worse, however, than most of these frustrations is the most
unnecessary of all of these failures; that is, the failure to pass the
Violence Against Women Act.
Five years ago, Senator Biden led this Congress in passing a Violence
Against Women Act, which I believe became noncontroversial and which
benefits have been widely accepted. It makes it all the more difficult
to understand that this $1.6 billion package is languishing and will
expire.
Under this legislation, we have trained thousands of police officers
to make them sensitive to the problems of family violence and abuse.
Judges and counselors have received training in sensitivity. We have
increased the means of reporting domestic violence. So our records are
accurate. We know the extent of the problem and how to respond.
Most importantly, we have provided real services, medical services,
for a woman or a family who is abused; a place to go to get counselling
from someone who understands domestic violence and how to deal with it;
a place to take a child.
I think the most important of all is temporary housing. No American
parent should have to choose between subjecting their child or
themselves to violence, sexual abuse, or even a threat to life, and
homelessness. Thousands of American women face that every night. Do I
take my child to the streets, to a temporary motel, unsafe shelter, no
shelter at all, or do I stay in a home where the child can be abused,
where my life can be threatened?
The Violence Against Women Act has created thousands of beds in
temporary shelters across the country so women do not have to face that
choice. It established an emergency hotline which continues to get
13,000 calls a month, half a million calls since its inception; where a
desperate woman, not knowing her options, or how to protect her child,
not knowing what to do, how to get medical help, how to get counseling,
how to get a police officer who understands, can call and get someone
on the other end of a phone and get help.
The greatest part of the Violence Against Women Act is that it is
showing results. Since 1997, the programs created by the Violence
Against Women Act have reduced the rate of partner violence against
women by 21 percent. This is a dramatic decline in the amount of
violence against women since the act came into being. There may be many
reasons.
We are also seeing dramatic drops in murders. Fewer murders were
committed by intimate partners in 1996, 1997, and 1998, than any year
since 1976. The number of women raped has declined by 13 percent
between 1994 and 1997. Members may cite many reasons why violence is
down, rape rates are down, and most importantly, murder rates are down,
but one of those reasons must be that police officers are better
trained and are responding more promptly, judges are move sensitive to
the crime, and most importantly, women who feel threatened in these
circumstances have a choice, are getting out of residences and into
shelters, into protected environments.
During a recent recess, I visited a number of the shelters across my
State of New Jersey. The Women's Center in Monmouth County, NJ, is
receiving $285,000 for counseling and shelter and emergency services.
The Passaic County Women's Shelter in Paterson received $185,000 under
the Violence Against Women Act for Spanish-speaking women to get help
and advice.
If this act is not reauthorized, these shelters lose their Federal
funding, potentially close their doors, with the unescapable conclusion
that violence may rise as women lose choices.
We have come to recognize in these years, the criminal justice system
has come to recognize, as well, that violence in the family,
particularly in cities, is dangerous not only to the individuals in the
family, but society, which is built upon a family unit. We decided not
to ignore the problem. But that may be exactly what this Congress is
doing. This legislation will lapse, this funding will end, and people
will get hurt. Those are realities. They are not partisan comments.
They don't represent a philosophy or ideology. They are cold, hard,
facts because for all the progress we have made, family violence in
this country remains an epidemic. One in three women continues to
experience domestic violence in their lifetime. A woman is still raped
every 5 minutes, and still there are no arrests in half of all the
Nation's rape cases.
The risks of not acting are great: Lose the shelters, lose another
generation of police officers or judges who are not properly trained, a
phone call in the night that cannot be made, beds that will not be
available. Is it worth the price, the cost of this inaction?
I am pleased we are voting on this H-1B visa today. I wish we were
doing many other things. Other things may be controversial, we may have
our own ideas about them, but surely this could bring us together. It
did once. In 1995, we acted together, without division. Are we less now
than we were then--is the problem so much less in our minds?
I urge the leadership to bring the Violence Against Women Act to the
floor and to do so now.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Crapo). Who yields time?
If no one yields, time will be charged equally against both sides.
Mr. GRAHAM. Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. GRAHAM. I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum
call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. GRAHAM. Mr. President, I again lend my support to the Latino and
Immigrant Fairness Act. I understand we may be voting at 4:30 this
afternoon to waive the rules to allow this legislation to be
considered. I am hopeful in
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the spirit of fundamental fairness the Senate will vote to allow a full
debate on this issue.
The focus of this legislation is the same word that I just used to
refer to what I hope will be the disposition of the Senate, and that is
``fairness.'' There has been a lot of discussion over the past few days
about high-tech workers, H-1B visas. Our American companies need these
high-tech workers.
Unfortunately, there are deficiencies in the skill level of Americans
which have resulted in the necessity of providing visas for specific
high-skilled foreign workers to come to the United States to fill these
jobs. I hope this deficiency will just be a temporary one and we will
use the debate we are having on H-1B as a spur to do the fundamental
reforms we are called upon to do to see that Americans have the skills
to fill these high-tech, high-wage jobs. Until then, American industry
needs these workers. High-tech industries are one of the engines that
have been growing our prosperous economy.
I want to see the H-1B bill become law. I am a cosponsor and a long-
time supporter of this legislation. However, high-tech workers are not
the engine of our economic growth. The equally essential workers in our
service and retail industry, manufacturing, care giving, tourism, and
others are part of that economic engine. The need is great for H-1B and
high-tech workers. The need is also great for these essential workers.
Many of these workers would remain as legal, permanent members of our
society under the relief provided with the Latino and Immigrant
Fairness Act.
Simply put, what is fairness? I said before that we all learn in
grammar school what is fair and what is not fair. It is fair for a
teacher to punish two noisy and disruptive schoolchildren by keeping
both of them inside during recess. But if the teacher keeps only one
student in and lets the other go outside and play, that is unfair. In
other words, fair is treating people in the same circumstances in the
same way. This is exactly what we are trying to achieve with the
``NACARA Parity'' section of the Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act.
We are here today trying to achieve fairness because in 1996 we
passed an immigration law that went too far. It was unfair because it
applied retroactively. This is like changing the rules in the middle of
the game. This is what we have done, and we should correct it, and we
should begin that process of correction today.
What we are being asked to do is not to provide citizenship or even
legal permanent status to the persons who will be affected by this
legislation. In most instances what we are being asked to do is to give
these people a chance to apply for legal status in the United States,
just as we have given others who are in the same circumstances the
right to apply for legal residence in the United States.
I spoke on the Senate floor earlier about the human faces and human
stories I came to know when Congress corrected part of this unfairness,
the unfairness of the 1996 act, in 1997 and 1998 with two immigration
bills dealing with Central Americans and Haitians.
On the Senate floor I spoke of Alexandra Charles, whom I came to know
when I participated in a hearing held in Miami when we were originally
introducing the Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act. Let me tell
you Alexandra's story.
As a young child in Haiti, she witnessed the military murder her
mother. Her father has disappeared. She came to the United States as an
unaccompanied minor, but she has built a life here. When I testified
about her at the hearing in Miami, she was working at two jobs. She was
finishing 2 years at Miami Dade Community College. Congress took the
right step, in 1997, to protect her future in the United States. We
have the opportunity today to start the process to take the right step
for others who are in Alexandra's same circumstances.
We are now treating differently those individuals who faced equally
arduous hurdles to come to the United States: Those who fled civil
wars, those who witnessed brutal acts--such as Alexandra, seeing a
military man shoot down her mother--those who were forced out of a
nation after a military overthrow because of their views on democracy.
Our Nation has always set the standard for offering refuge to those in
need. We did so in this case. We gave legal status to many in the mid-
1980s who came here in these circumstances, fleeing persecution,
seeking democracy and freedom. Then, in 1996 we took it away and did it
retroactively. This is wrong. This is not the American way. We should
correct this error in this legislation.
In July of this year, Congressman Alcee Hastings and I met with
members of the Haitian community in Fort Lauderdale, FL. One of the
audience members who approached the microphone to speak was in
elementary school. His name was Rickerson Moises. He and some of his
siblings were born in the United States. They are U.S. citizens. His
mother fled the violence in Haiti but was not protected in the Haitian
Refugee Fairness Act because she came with a false document, a method
she had to take to escape Haiti.
If I could just explain for a moment the differences in exit from
Haiti during that period of the Duvalier regime and then the military
dictatorship which followed. Most Haitians who fled the country did so
by small boat. They arrived in the United States with no documentation
at all. They had no passports, no other documents to support their exit
from their former country or their arrival in the United States. There
was another group, a smaller group, approximately 10,000, who came by
commercial airline. These frequently were the people who were in the
greatest jeopardy. They realized they did not have time to seek out a
boat, to wait possibly the days or weeks before the boat was prepared
to leave. They had to leave tonight because of the nature of the threat
they faced.
Mr. President, I ask for an additional 10 minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Will the Senator clarify as to what time that
10 minutes will come from? We have a time agreement which has a
deadline for a vote.
Mr. GRAHAM. It will come from the minority side.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. There is no time on the minority side. It
would have to come from the majority side. As a Senator from Idaho, I
would have to object until I have advice from the majority leader as to
the time.
Mr. GRAHAM. Mr. President, in light of the fact that there is no one
here seeking the floor, I ask unanimous consent I be allowed to
continue until someone seeks the floor or for an additional 5 minutes,
whichever is shorter.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. GRAHAM. Mr. President, those persons who came by commercial
airliner had to have some documents in order to get on the plane. So
what they would frequently do is get counterfeit passports so they
could get onto the plane and out of Haiti and escape the imminent
prospect of persecution or worse.
She was one of those persons. She came to the United States with
false documents, counterfeit documents she admits. Had she come with no
documents at all, she would have been allowed to stay here. But because
she arrived with false documents, she is subject to deportation. After
years of life in the United States, this action would separate U.S.
citizen children from their Haitian mother. This is an agonizing
choice--follow the law and leave your children behind or take your
children back to a country where you suffered violence and persecution.
I cannot think of any choice more un-American, more offensive to our
basic principles. We have a chance to correct this and restore
fairness, and we should do so as soon as possible.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to have printed in the Record
two editorials, one from the Miami Herald, one from the San Francisco
Chronicle, which explain in greater detail the urgent need to take
action and correct this injustice. I ask these two editorials be
printed in the Record immediately after my remarks.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
(See Exhibit 1.)
Mr. GRAHAM. Mr. President, I do not want to speak much longer. I
didn't speak much when I was on the floor before about another element
of the Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act because I focused on my own
personal experiences in south Florida. But
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the ``registry date'' component of the legislation will have a
tremendously positive impact on my State and on our Nation as a whole.
Congress every so often in the course of legislation updates what is
called the registry date in immigration law. This is the way, for many
years, residents of our Nation have had to formalize their status in
the United States. It recognizes the fact that after many years in our
country doing the hardest work, paying taxes, participating in the
community, and starting small businesses, there should be an avenue of
appeal to be able to stay in the United States.
To apply for relief--and I underscore apply for relief, not be
granted relief--to apply for relief under the new registry date, 1986,
you must have been here since that time, nearly 15 years.
For many Floridians, these are the most long-term employees or our
established neighbors. These workers for Florida's companies have the
most experience and are among the most dedicated. It is fundamentally
unfair to these workers, the businesses, and our communities to uproot
these families after 15 years or more.
Critics have said this condones illegal immigration. Our Nation
should have a firm policy on illegal immigration, and through the last
few years' appropriations cycles, we have allocated more money for
border enforcement. We have the Federal responsibility to strengthen
our borders, but we also have the responsibility to face the reality
and the consequences of uprooting families after nearly two decades of
work and life in the United States.
Many of these individuals did have legal status at one time and were
affected by the immigration laws passed in 1996. Some were given bad
advice about whether they were eligible for the amnesty program in
1986. They were told not to apply, when, in fact, they were eligible
for the program.
Updating the registry date allows those who have dedicated 15 or more
years of their life to building and strengthening our economy and
Nation to finally have the opportunity for a formal status here. It
makes both economic and humanitarian sense.
Lastly, I want to react to some of the debate yesterday. I believe
there should be a free and open debate on this important immigration
issue, but, in my view, that debate does not need to be partisan.
This is an issue that affects every city, business, and family in
America. It crosses State lines and party lines. There is a common
ground, and I hope we can work together to find a way to allow both H-
1B and the Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act to become law. It is in
the greatest of America's tradition of justice and fairness.
I thank the Chair.
Exhibit 1
[From the Miami Herald, May 4, 2000]
Haitian Parents of U.S. Kids Deserve To Remain Here Together
Imagine a scene where American children are made to bid
goodbye to their mothers and fathers as federal agents force
the parents to board a plane to Haiti, where they'll have to
rebuild their lives.
After going to extraordinary lengths to reunite Elian
Gonzalez with his father, Attorney General Janet Reno must
not let that tragedy come to pass for the 5,000 U.S.-born
children of Haitians who soon might be placed in this awful
situation. These parents, some of whom have been here for as
many as 20 years, could be deported at a moment's notice.
They'd be forced to choose between leaving their children
behind or raising them in a destitute, strife-torn country
the children have never seen.
That's what the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization
Service, which Ms. Reno oversees, proposes to do. Ms. Reno
should be consistent in her concern for children. For their
sake, she must protect these families by suspending their
deportation at the highest executive level.
The next step is for Ms. Reno to allow these Haitians to be
included in the Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act of
1998, which was intended to cover Haitians fleeing political
violence in Haiti in the early 1990s. The law granted amnesty
from deportation to Haitians who made it to U.S. shores
before the 1996 cutoff date, as these 10,000 people did.
But unlike those who arrived by boat or other means, most
of these 10,000 came through South Florida's airports using
phony documents to flee that country. Yet because they broke
the law by using counterfeit papers, the INS has refused to
let them apply for protection under that amnesty law signed
by President Clinton in 1998. One such refugee was a former
Haitian soldier who fled after refusing to follow orders and
shoot at unarmed demonstrators.
Another is Kenol Henricy who paid $2,500 for a passport and
visa that got him to Turk and Caicos, then to Maimi. He was
stopped at the airport and spent four months at the Krome
Detention Center. ``I knew it was illegal,'' says Henricy,
32. ``There was nothing else I could do.''
That was 11 years ago. In the meantime, his wife died,
leaving him alone to care for Kenisha, his asthmatic,
American-born child. Since he arrived, Mr. Henricy has worked
at the same Medley tool-and-die shop. Recently he's been
sharing a house in Hollywood to help a brother pay the
mortgage.
Last August, Mr. Henricy received his deportation letter
with an extension set to run out in September if he's denied
residency under HRIFA. He's interviewing with an INS officer
today. If his request for amnesty is turned down, Henricy
fears he may be detained and deported on the spot.
What then? Here he has work and insurance for his asthmatic
daughter. In Haiti--nothing.
Ms. Reno must show compassion for children like Kenisha,
some who don't speak a word of Creole. She has the power to
stop INS lawyers from prosecuting fraudulent-entry cases, and
she must use it. The HRIFA law was intended to correct a
wrong, not to break apart families.
____
[From the San Francisco Chronicle, April 5, 2000]
No Room for 5,000 Elians
While much of the nation is consumed by the plight of one
little Cuban boy, more than 5,000 Haitian children are facing
an even more frightening prospect: banishment by the
Immigration and Naturalization Service to a Caribbean hell of
filth, tyranny, starvation and, some cases, surely death.
Obscured in the dark shadows just beyond America's
spotlight on Elian Gonzalez, few know the pain of thousands
of lesser known but equally vulnerable children on the verge
of either being ripped from their families or booted out of
the only homeland they've ever known. Worried and puzzled,
the children await the execution of deportation orders that,
at any moment will either make them orphans, doom them to a
life of squalor, or both.
U.S. citizens by birthright, the children can't be
deported. But their parents can and have been so ordered--the
penalty for doctoring passports to escape a fearsome Haiti
more than a decade ago.
Now, 3,000 parents face an agonizing choice: take their
children with them or leave their children here--in effect
making them orphans--as the only way to ensure them at least
a chance at a better life.
The fate of the Haitians, long colored by politics and
race, is a brutal tale of a people unable to awake from
nightmares most thought they fled years ago. From 1981 to
1994, 10,000 Haitians boarded leaky boats, leaving a country
wracked by street chaos, military coups and the kind of
ruthless politics that made Cuba look orderly by comparison.
But the U.S. Coast Guard seized and burned their boats, and
returned them to a regime the world routinely scorns. But
many tried again, this time using altered passports to board
airlines and fly.
In 1997, Cubans and Nicaraguans who came here in much the
same way were given amnesty, but not Haitians who entered
with fake passports. Apparently, scaling border fences or
floating in on rafts like Elian is less criminal.
Ironically, Haitians mostly live in Florida, virtually next
door to Elian and his rabid street crusade for citizenship.
The Haitians have worked hard at menial jobs, obeying laws,
buying homes, educating their kids. But no politicians have
taken up their cause. No one is protecting their dilemma,
demanding parental rights or simply fighting to save their
children.
But if it is wrong to tear one child away from his father,
surely it's wrong to tear 5,000 children away from theirs.
It's time to end America's double standard for Haitian
refugees. Attorney General Janet Reno should stay the
deportations and assure the Haitians that they too won't be
ripped from their parents.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The time of the Senator has expired.
Mr. THOMAS. Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. THOMAS. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. THOMAS. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to be allowed to
proceed as in morning business counted against the time on our side.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. THOMAS. I thank the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection? Without objection, it is
so ordered.
The Senator from Nevada is recognized.
Mr. REID. Before the vote occurs at 4:30, I want to make sure we all
understand where we are coming from in this instance. Our leader has
asked that the rules be suspended, in effect, so that we can vote on
the Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act. This is a very simple measure
that we want to vote on. Some people disagree with what we are trying
to do. We want an up-or-down vote on this amendment. The Latino and
Immigrant Fairness Act contains Central American parity, date of
registry,
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245(i), and the matter that has been so well discussed by Senator Reed
from Rhode Island dealing with Liberians. We want an up-or-down vote on
this and we will get one eventually. We hope this measure will pass.
Everybody should understand that a vote against our suspending the
rules is against the amendment that we are advocating, the Latino and
Immigrant Fairness Act. This has nothing to do with illegal
immigration. These are people who are already in the United States, who
are here seeking to have their status readjusted. It has nothing to do
with criminals. None of these people are criminals who could apply to
have legal status here and apply for citizenship.
There are a number of red herrings that have been thrown up, and this
is a simple proposal. We want the ability of these people who are in
the country to have their status adjusted. Some of it is so unfair that
people have the ability to apply under an amnesty act passed in 1986.
Anybody in the country prior to 1982 could apply to have their status
readjusted. They had a year to do that. Some people took more than a
year. We believe there should be the ability of these people who were
here before 1982 to have their status adjusted. We have asked that that
date be moved up to 1986 in keeping with what we have done in this
country since 1929. We have been adjusting the time for individuals to
readjust their status.
It is unfair if we are unable to do this. The President has said he
would not allow this Congress to adjourn unless this fairness provision
is passed and made law.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. THOMAS. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
We are especially proud in Wyoming to have had a number of athletes
in the Olympics. But we are really so proud of this one in particular,
who, as of yesterday, had the gold medal in heavyweight wrestling.
I couldn't resist the opportunity to recognize that.
Thank you, Mr. President.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Sessions). The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. BENNETT. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order
for the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Ms. MIKULSKI. Mr. President, I rise to oppose cloture on the H-1B
visa bill. I understand the importance of filling jobs in our high-tech
industry. Yet hiring more people from abroad is only a short-term stop-
gap solution.
We don't have a worker shortage--We have a skill shortage. We must
upgrade the skills of American workers.
If we don't start dealing with the issue of skills, we will never
have enough high-tech workers, and we'll perpetuate the underclass.
I am pleased that the H-1B visa bill would use visa fees for worker
training and National Science Foundation scholarships, but we must do a
lot more for K-12 education. That is why I want to offer an amendment
to enable all Americans to learn the skills they need to work in the
new digital economy.
My amendment is endorsed by the NAACP, the National Council of La
Raza, the American Library Association, and the YMCA.
During consideration of the budget resolution, I offered an amendment
to create a national goal: to ensure that every child is computer
literate by the 8th grade, regardless of race, ethnicity, income,
gender, geography, or disability.
My amendment passed unanimously. Yet in this Congress, we have done
nothing to make this goal a reality.
A digital divide exists in America. Low-income, urban and rural
families are less likely to have access to the Internet and computers.
Black and Hispanic families are only two-fifths as likely to have
Internet access as white families. Some schools have ten computers in
every classroom. In other schools, 200 students share one computer.
Technology is the tool; empowerment since the Civil Rights Act of
1964, or it could result in even further divisions between races,
regions and income groups.
Last year I visited New Shiloh Church in Baltimore. The pastor,
Reverend Carter is working to bring jobs and hope to his community. He
wanted to start a technology center. He asked for my help--and I didn't
know how to help him. So for over a year, I've been learning about the
digital divide.
I reached out to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, the Congressional
Black Caucus, people throughout Maryland, including, Speaker Cass
Taylor, who is trying to wire western Maryland, ministers in Baltimore,
who want their congregations to cross the digital divide, business
leaders, who need trained workers, and educators, who want to help
their students become computer literate.
I learned that our Federal programs are scattered and skimpy.
Teachers and community leaders have to forrage for assistance.
The private sector is doing important, exciting work in improving
access to technology. But technology empowerment can't be limited to a
few zip codes or a couple of recycled factories. We need national
policies and national programs.
We must focus on the ABC's: A--Universal Access; B--best trained--and
better paid teachers; C--computer literacy for all students by the time
they finish 8th grade.
My amendment would do two things. First of all, I am focusing on
access. Community leaders have told me that we need to bring technology
to where kids learn not just where we want them to learn.
They don't just learn in school; they learn in their communities.
Not every family has a computer in their home, but every American
should have access to computers in their community.
This is a truly American ideal. We are the nation that created free
public schools to provide every child with access to education.
We created community libraries across the country to provide all
Americans with access to books.
We now need to bring technology into our communities to give all
Americans access to technology.
What does this amendment do to improve access to technology? It
creates 1,000 community based technology centers around the country.
These centers would be created and run by community organizations, like
a YMCA, the Urban League, or a public library.
The Federal Government would provide competitive grants to community
based organizations.
At least half the funds for these sectors must come from the private
sector. So we will be helping to build public-private partnerships
around the country.
The private sector is eager to form these partnerships because their
biggest problem is hiring enough skilled workers.
What does this mean for local communities? It means a safe haven for
children, where they could learn how to use computers and use them to
do homework or surf the Web.
It means job training for adults, who could use the technology
centers to sharpen their job skills or write their resumes.
These community centers can serve all regions, races, and ethnic
groups. They will be where they are needed, where there is limited
access to technology.
They will be in urban, rural, and suburban areas.
They will be in Appalachia, and urban centers, and Native American
reservations.
Over 750 community organizations applied for Community Technology
Center grants last year.
We were only able to give grants to 40 community organizations.
There were so many excellent proposals last year that they didn't ask
for new applicants this year, so this year, they are funding 71 more of
the original applicants.
We must do better.
The second part of my amendment is about education.
My amendment doubles teacher training in technology.
Why is this important?
Because everywhere I go, teachers tell me that they want to help
their students cross the digital divide. They need the training to do
this because technology without training is a hollow opportunity.
Yet, according to a 1998 study by the National Center for Educational
Statistics, only 20 percent of teachers feel fully prepared to use
technology in their classrooms.
The Maryland Superintendent of Schools, Dr. Nancy Grasmick, told me
that last summer, over 600 teachers from across the State volunteered
to participate in a technology training academy. They volunteered their
time to go to Towson State University to learn how to use technology in
their classrooms. Over 400 were turned away because of lack of funding.
That is why my amendment would double funding for teacher training in
technology.
Finally, my amendment doubles funding to train new teachers. Over the
next 10 years, we will have to hire an additional 2 million teachers.
In Maryland, over half our teachers will be eligible to retire by 2002.
We must make sure that all new teachers have the skills they need to
fully integrate technology into their classes.
Under cloture, I would not be able to offer my amendment.
Some of my colleagues would be glad about that.
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They would say this bill is about immigration, not education.
Well, I would have preferred to offer this amendment to the
Elementary and Secondary Education Act, but the majority leader pulled
that bill off the floor after only nine days of debate.
So instead of educating Americans for high-tech jobs, we are putting
a Band-Aid on the problem by relying on workers from abroad.
We are living in an exciting time.
The opportunities are tremendous: to use technology to improve our
lives; to use technology to remove the barriers caused by income, race,
ethnicity, or geography.
This could mean the death of distance as a barrier for economic
development for poor children and children of color; it could mean the
death of discrimination and enable them to leap frog into the future.
My goal is to ensure that everyone in Maryland and in American can
take advantage of these opportunities, so that no one is left out or
left behind.
It would be a shame and a disgrace for this Congress to end without
helping all Americans to cross the digital divide.
Mr. HOLLINGS. Mr. President, I cannot agree with the premise of the
H1B Visa bill. Affluent America with all of its opportunities cannot be
designated skill-short. I have been in the game of technical training
for skills for years. At present we are attracting high-tech
industries, like Black Baud, training computer operators overnight.
Stop for a moment and analyze the zeal behind this movement. We have
learned that 20 percent of Microsoft employees are part-time. The
employees had brought a suit in 1992 so that they would receive stock
options, health care and retirement benefits as other workers
performing the same task. By 1998 these workers had prevailed in the
courts, but Microsoft put them all on part-time employment. The trend
in these high-tech industries is to part-time. Today this amounts to 20
to 30 percent of those at Redmond, Washington. In Silicon Valley 42
percent of the employ is part-time. So high-tech is not providing the
paying jobs to support a middle class in America. High-tech is looking
to bring in the so-called Indian or Chinese talented at a $40,000 per
year rate. But these jobs can and should be trained for in the United
States. In fact, that is what they have told the 38,700 textile workers
in South Carolina who have lost their jobs since NAFTA. ``We have moved
into a new economy'' is the cry with the rejoinder, ``retrain,
retrain.'' So, as I set about retraining them for high-tech, the
Congress prepares to superimpose 600,000 foreign trained before they
have had a chance to compete in the new economy. Mind you me, I am
devoted to advanced technology. I authored the successful advanced
technology program now ongoing in the Department of Commerce. I believe
America's security rests with its superiority in technology. But high-
tech doesn't provide the number of jobs that manufacture does.
Microsoft has 21,000 employees in Redmond, Washington; Boeing has
100,000. And high-tech doesn't pay. I know firsthand that we can train
the cotton picker to become a skilled automobile manufacturer. We have
done this at BMW in Spartanburg, South Carolina. Incidentally, the
quality of the product of the South Carolina BMW plant exceeds the
quality of the Munich product. What we are really facing is a foot race
for the high-tech political money. I saw this in the farcical Y2K law
adopted by the Congress. We saw it again in the foot race for the
estate tax legislation to take care of 100 new Internet billionaires.
And now we presume a non-existent national crisis in H1B for the high-
tech political contributions. I am not joining in this charade.
I ask unanimous consent that an article entitled ``How To Create a
Skilled-Labor Shortage'' be printed in the Record.
There being no objection, the article was ordered to be printed in
the Record, as follows:
[From the New York Times, Sept. 6, 2000]
How to Create a Skilled-Labor Shortage
(By Richard Rothstein)
To alleviate apparent shortages of computer programmers,
President Clinton and Congress have agreed to raise a quota
on H-1B's, the temporary visas for skilled foreigners. The
annual limit will go to 200,000 next year, up from 65,000
only three years ago.
The imported workers, most of whom come from India, are
said to be needed because American schools do not graduate
enough young people with science and math skills. Microsoft's
chairman, William H. Gates, and Intel's chairman, Andrew S.
Grove, told Congress in June that more visas were only a
stopgap until education improved.
But the crisis is a mirage. High-tech companies portray a
shortage, yet it is our memories that are short: only
yesterday there was a glut of science and math graduates.
The computer industry took advantage of that glut by
reducing wages. This discouraged youths from entering the
field, creating the temporary shortages of today. Now, taking
advantage of a public preconception that school failures have
created the problem, industry finds a ready audience for its
demands to import workers.
This newspaper covered the earlier surplus extensively. In
1992, it reported that 1 in 5 college graduates had a job not
requiring a college degree. A 1995 article headlined ``Supply
Exceeds Demand for Ph.D.'s in Many Science Fields'' cited
nation-wide unemployment of engineers, mathematicians and
scientists. ``Overproduction of Ph.D. degrees,'' it noted,
``seems to be highest in computer science.''
Michael S. Teitelbaum, a demographer who served as vice
chairman of the Commission on Immigration Reform, said in
1996 that there was ``an employer's market'' for technology
workers, partly because of post-cold-war downsizing in
aerospace.
In fields with real labor scarcity, wages rise. Yet despite
accounts of dot-com entrepreneurs' becoming millionaires,
trends in computer technology pay do not confirm a need to
import legions of programmers.
Salary offers to new college graduates in computer science
averaged $39,000 in 1986 and had declined by 1994 to $33,000
(in constant dollars). The trend reversed only in the late
1990's.
The West Coast median salary for experienced software
engineers was $71,100 in 1999, up only 10 percent (in
constant dollars) from 1990. This pay growth of about 1
percent a year suggests no labor shortage.
Norman Matloff, a computer science professor at the
University of California, contends that high-tech companies
create artificial shortages by refusing to hire experienced
programmers. Many with technology degrees no longer work in
the field. By age 50, fewer than half are still in the
industry. Luring them back requires higher pay.
Industry spokesmen say older programmers with outdated
skills would take too long to retrain. But Dr. Matloff
counters by saying that when they urge more H-1B visas,
lobbyists demonstrate a shortage by pointing to vacancies
lasting many months. Companies could train older programmers
in less time than it takes to process visas for cheaper
foreign workers.
Dr. Matloff says that in addition to the pay issue, the
industry rejects older workers because they will not work the
long hours typical at Silicon Valley companies with youthful
``singles'' styles. Imported labor, he argues, is only a way
to avoid offering better conditions to experienced
programmers. H-1B workers, in contrast, cannot demand higher
pay; visas are revoked if workers leave their sponsoring
companies.
As for young computer workers, the labor market has
recently tightened, with rising wages, because college
students say earlier wage declines and stopped majoring in
math and science. In 1996, American colleges awarded 25,000
bachelor's degrees in computer science, down from 42,000 in
1985.
The reason is not that students suddenly lacked
preparation. On the contrary, high school course-taking in
math and science, including advanced placement, had climbed.
Further, math scores have risen; last year 24 percent of
seniors who took the SAT scored over 600 in math. But only 6
percent planned to major in computer science, and many of
these cannot get into college programs.
The reason: colleges themselves have not yet adjusted to
new demand. In some places, computer science courses are so
oversubscribed that students must get on waiting lists as
high school juniors.
With a time lag between student choice of majors and later
job quests, high schools and colleges cannot address short-
term supply and demand shifts for particular professions.
Such shortages can be erased only by raising wages to attract
those with needed skills who are now working in other
fields--or by importing low-paid workers.
For the longer term, rising wages can guide counselors to
encourage well-prepared students to major in computer science
and engineering, and colleges will adjust to rising demand.
But more H-1B immigrants can have a perverse effect, as their
lower pay signals young people to avoid this field in the
future keeping the domestic supply artificially low.
Mr. McCAIN. Mr. President, I regret that the Latino and Immigrant
Fairness Act, which I enthusiastically support, has fallen victim to
political currents in the Senate that do a disservice to the many
Latino and other immigrants who rightly deserve the status this
legislation would afford them. I strongly support the H-1B visa bill
but, like my colleagues, recognize that attaching the Latino and
Immigrant Fairness Act to it would likely prevent the high-tech worker
legislation's passage in the 106th Congress. Indeed, the
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House leadership has indicated that it will not bring the H-1B visa
bill to the floor with the Fairness provisions attached--a position I
strongly disagree with.
Senators who support passage of both the H-1B bill and the Fairness
Act thus find themselves in the position of being forced to vote
against a procedural motion to allow consideration of the Fairness
provisions to keep alive our hope of raising visa caps for the high-
tech workers our companies so desperately need.
I hope the Senate will have the opportunity to vote on passage of the
Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act before the 106th Congress adjourns.
It is the right thing to do, and our leaders on both sides of the aisle
should find a way to bring it to a vote.
Throughout my political career, I have been deeply honored by the
support of Latinos and other immigrants in my home state of Arizona.
Our compassion and advocacy of family values for all members of our
society, including hard-working, tax-paying Latinos who have resided in
this nation for many years, require us to take a closer look at the
Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act than has been afforded us during the
H-1B visa debate. I look forward to an up-or-down vote on this
legislation and will support its passage.
Mr. BYRD. Mr. President, earlier today I voted against suspending the
rule to allow for the consideration of the Latino and Immigration
Fairness Act as an amendment to the H-1B visa legislation.
I opposed suspending the rules because the Latino and Immigration
Fairness Act sends the wrong message to those persons who might
consider illegally entering the United States. Under current law, a
person who enters this country as a temporary alien or nonimmigrant
must return to his native country after his temporary papers have
expired if he wants to apply for permanent residency in the United
States. This amendment would allow these nomimmigrants to pay a $1,000
fee to the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) in order to
remain in the United States while they apply for permanent residency.
Advocates of this provision argue that this fee would be a significant
source of income for the INS. That may be so, but, at the same time,
the amendment would allow for illegal immigrants to legally work in the
United States while their residency application is pending, and send
the message abroad that this is the preferred route to U.S. residence.
Although it may be inconvenient for eligible aliens who are in the
United States to have to apply for residency from outside of the United
States, that is not a sufficient reason for giving them an advantage
that is unavailable to other hopeful immigrants who are patiently
waiting abroad for their opportunity to legally immigrate.
Similarly, the Latino and Immigration Fairness Act would extend the
registration time line for immigrants who are here illegally to apply
for permanent residence if they entered the country prior to 1986.
While this provision would allow immigrants of good moral conduct to
apply for permanent residency, it also rewards immigrants who managed
to stay in the United States illegally. What is worse is, that it sends
the unfortunate message that is possible to gain permanent residency in
the United States regardless of whether you are an alien who arrived
here legally or illegally.
I am opposed to Congress' sending these mixed signals to immigrants
entering this country. The Immigration and Nationality Act, our primary
law for regulating immigration into this country, sets out a very
specific process by which nonimmigrants may apply for permanent
residency in this country. The Latino and Immigration Fairness Act
would effectively create short cuts around this process by allowing
illegal immigrants to circumvent the normal rules. This is not the
message I want to send abroad.
Mr. SMITH of New Hampshire. Mr. President, I rise today in support of
S. 2045, the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act.
This bill provides for an increase in foreign workers possessing
special skills to enter the United States on a temporary basis in the
field of information technology.
This bill also encourages more young people to study mathematics,
engineering, and computer science to insure that in the future,
Americans can fill these high technology jobs.
I support this legislation, but I do have some concerns about the
potential for the theft of American technology through immigrant high-
tech workers.
H-1B is a visa classification. H-1B visas were created for non-
immigrant foreign nationals admitted to the U.S. on a temporary basis.
These H-1B visas are valid for three years and can be renewed for an
additional three years.
In order to qualify for H-1B visa status, an individual must be in a
specialty occupation which requires a theoretical and practical
application of a body of highly specialized knowledge and at least a
bachelor's degree in the specific specialty area.
In 1998, Congress passed, and the President signed, legislation
increasing the annual ceiling for admission of H-1B visas from 115,000
in fiscal year 1999 and 2000, and 107,500 in fiscal year 2001.
In 1999, it took nine months to exhaust the H-1B annual ceiling. This
year the ceiling was reached in 6 months. The high tech industry has
not filled these jobs and the American economy is paying the price.
Another provision of this legislation addresses the long-term problem
that too few U.S. students are excelling in mathematics, computer
science, and engineering. We need to encourage more young people to
study mathematics, engineering, and computer science and to train more
Americans in these areas, so that there will be no need in the future
for H-1B visas.
I do have national security concerns about the H-1B visa program. I
would like to see a proper screening of candidates for H-1B visas by
the Immigration and Naturalization Services to ensure that these
foreign nationals do not steal technology for export to a foreign
government.
I will be monitoring the implementation of this new law to ensure
that national security and intellectual property rights are protected.
We also need to make a better effort to encourage these companies to
train and recruit American workers for these high paying jobs.
Mr. President, I ask that the Senate support this increase in the
ceiling on H-1B visas and this increase in funding to train young
Americans to fill these important jobs in the high tech industry.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Utah.
Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, parliamentary inquiry: How much time is
left on both sides?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The majority controls all remaining time until
4:30.
Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the
distinguished Senator from Connecticut be granted 5 minutes to make
whatever speech he desires, and that there be an additional 10 minutes
for me to conclude my remarks on this bill.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The Senator from Connecticut.
Mr. DODD. Mr. President, I thank my colleague from Utah. As always,
he is very gracious.
Mr. President, I rise today in support of the pending motion made by
the Democratic leader on behalf of the Latino fairness legislation, and
also in support of the underlying H-1B visa legislation. First, let me
speak to the H-1B legislation, which is so vital to the economic growth
of our nation. This legislation both raises the limit on the number of
foreign high-tech workers admitted to the United States each year, and
invests vital funds in educating our American students, especially
those in low-income areas, in math, science, and technology. This is a
critically important bill that is necessary to maintain the dynamic
growth we have seen in the high-tech sector of our economy over both
the short- and long-term.
We live in a remarkable period of prosperity. Just today we read in
our newspapers that the poverty rate in America is the lowest in 20
years, while median household income is at an all time high--over
$40,000 a year. Yet, we can do more to lift the tide of growth for all
Americans. Currently, approximately 190,000 high-tech jobs go unfilled
in America each year, and it is expected that close to 1.3 million
high-tech jobs will be unfilled in 2006. Our
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high-tech businesses are hurting for employees, and there are not
enough American students graduating with technology degrees to fill
these jobs. The short-term answer to this shortage of technology
skilled workers is simple: we must admit more highly-trained foreign
workers to the United States. This legislation will do that by raising
the number of H-1B visas issued to 195,000.
Yet, in the long-run, we should not simply keep importing foreign
workers to shore up our workforce. We must do a better job of preparing
our own students to seek careers in technology. That is why the
education and training provisions included in this bill are so
important. By making an investment in math and science education for
our young people, especially those students who live in our low-income
areas, we are investing in their future as well as America's future.
Having said that, we must remember that the economic prosperity that
we enjoy today is not being distributed equally. There is a cloud
behind the silver lining of our current prosperity. The gap between the
most affluent Americans and the rest of the population is widening, and
poverty rates are still too high. 11.8 percent of our citizens live
below the poverty line. True, that number is the lowest in years.
However, it also means that 32.2 million Americans cannot afford the
basic necessities of life. A disproportionate number of those who live
in poverty are minorities, including a great many who have left their
country of birth for a better life in America.
This is one of the reasons why when we talk about H-1B visas we must
also talk about the Latino Fairness Act. This act will help restore
fairness and parity to our immigration laws, keeping families together
and encouraging more Hispanics to work lawfully. This bill has three
purposes;
First, it will update the date of registry to 1986, recognizing that
immigrants who have lived in the United States for a very long time
have deep roots here, and it is best to put them on a track toward
citizenship.
Second, it would restore section 245(I) of the immigration code to
allow immigrants who are undergoing the process of legalization to
apply for their visas in the United States, rather than forcing them to
leave the country and reenter, sometimes causing them to be ``locked-
out'' of the United States for years.
Finally, the Latino Fairness Act would guarantee that Latinos from
strife-torn nations are treated the same under immigration law.
The oppression that residents of one Latin American country have
suffered should not be considered more or less grave than the
oppression faced by the residents of another country where serious
human rights abuses have been committed. By improving parity and
equality in our immigration law, this bill would even the playing field
for many Latin Americans who want to come to this country and be
referred to as simply ``Americans.'' In fact, I would hope that as we
continue efforts to enact this legislation, we would consider expanding
the list of covered nationalities to include people from countries that
also experience economic strife.
I would like to take a moment to share with you the story of just one
of the many immigrants that would be helped by this law. Gheycell moved
to the United States in 1991, when she was 12 years old, with her
father and sister from war-torn Guatemala. She went to school and
became an active member of her community. In high school, she formed a
club to help homeless adults and children in Los Angeles. Her father
applied for asylum and they were all given work permits. Gheycell
aspired to go to college to become a teacher and help others. She could
not afford to go to a state university so she went to community college
while working full time to save money for university tuition. Her
father has applied for permanent residence under current law, but
Gheycell has turned 21 and no longer qualifies for adjustment of status
through her father's application. Her work permit has expired and she
is now undocumented. She must return to Guatemala where she will not
have the opportunities she has here. Her father and sister are not
getting their green cards and Gheycell does not want to be separated
from her family or give up her dream of educating and helping children
here in her adopted homeland.
Do we really want to be responsible for turning Gheycell away from
her dream? America needs more teachers. Why are we sending this
dedicated American away? Denying Gheycell a visa is both her and
America's loss. That is why we must act to help Gheycell and others
like her. Reforming our immigration laws is not only an issue that is
important for our economy, but is also important to our values as a
nation. If we truly believe in family values, we need to value
families. We should be trying to keep families together, especially
those families with children that need two wage-earners to stay above
the poverty line. The Latino Fairness Act, as much as any other
legislation this Congress will consider, tells Americans and the world
that we do value families. It says that we will not turn family members
away when they have for years been a part of America--working, serving
their community, and contributing to the well-being of their families
and our country.
We read stories every day in the paper and in magazines about the
innovators and leaders of the new economy. Thanks in many respects to
them, the technology sector is booming. That sector now needs the
relief that the H-1B legislation will provide. However, we must
remember that people like Gheycell also exist--people who are not the
subject of biographies and ``man-of-the-year'' awards--that need relief
too.
Whle the Latino Fairness measures may not be technically germane to
the H-1B bill, they are highly relevant to the issues we are debating
today. The general goal of the H-1B legislation is to admit immigrants
to our country to work and contribute to our economic prosperity. Why
then are we attempting to limit consideration of a bill that would
allow people who have been living and working in the United States to
stay here and continue to contribute to our prosperity? We seem to be
giving with one hand, and taking with the other. By obstructing the
Latino Fairness Act, we are effectively closing our doors and
contributing to a process that will result in the departure of people
that have been working and adding to our prosperity for years. At a
time when job vacancies are commonplace, we can't afford as a nation to
turn people out. If we want to help the high tech community, our
economic well-being, and families, we need to pass both the H-1B and
Latino fairness bills, and I hope that my colleagues will agree with me
on this matter.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous agreement, the Senator from
Utah is recognized for 10 minutes prior to the vote.
Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, I spoke at length this morning on the
issues before us, so I will try and be brief now.
First, let me begin by emphasizing how critical this bill is for our
country's future. The second vote this afternoon is on the Hatch
substitute to the underlying bill, S. 2045. Like the bill, the
substitute raises the annual cap on H-1B visas to 195,000 in each of
the next three years. The increase in the number of highly skilled
temporary workers will help American companies continue to create jobs
in this country and maintain their competitiveness in the global
economy.
But this substitute, however, does a lot more. The use of skilled
foreign labor is nothing more than a temporary stop gap solution to a
long term problem we face in this Century. The problem is one of
ensuring that our high tech industry has an adequate number of highly
trained and educated workers to fill the demand. To hear some of my
colleagues in recent days, one would think there is nothing in this
bill on educating our young people and training our workforce. That is
simple and completely inaccurate. The substitute contains important
education and training provisions, worked out with my colleagues--
including Senators Lieberman, Feinstein, Kennedy, and Abraham. Senators
Abraham and Kennedy are respectively the chairman and ranking member of
the Immigration Subcommittee. These provisions use the fees generated
by these visas to finance important education and training programs for
our children and our current workforce. These are critical measures for
our country.
That, Mr. President, is the matter at hand. Unfortunately, however,
much of the discussion and debate this week
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has been on an unrelated and far-reaching immigration matter--the so-
called Latino fairness bill. As I noted in some detail this morning,
this measure, which purports to simply restore due process to a limited
group is a broad, far-reaching and costly new amnesty program,
conservatively estimated to cost $1.4 billion over the next 10 years.
It provides amnesty to hundreds of thousands if not millions of illegal
aliens on an ongoing basis--or, in other words, an amnesty, ``rolling''
amnesty--over the next 5 years. That is right, Mr. President--it is a
rolling amnesty, obviously creating an incentive for illegal aliens to
continue to escape the law because the rewards for those who are most
effective at remaining in this country illegally happen to be permanent
resident status.
But this so-called Latino fairness is no fairness at all--no fairness
to the millions of immigrants who have and will continue to play by the
rules and follow the legal process. I have said to my friends on the
other side, if we are so eager to increase the supply of labor from
abroad, if we are so eager to unify families, then perhaps we should
examine lifting the caps on legal immigrants or at least cutting down
their waiting periods.
I am willing to work on that, but I can never get any cooperation
from the other side. They want to have a ``rolling'' amnesty for
several million illegal aliens in this country who can evade the law
for a matter of time and then be eligible for full nonresident status
on the way to citizenship.
To summarize:
First, the so-called Latino fairness bill extends a broad amnesty to
illegal immigrants here since 1986.
Second, it is a ``rolling'' amnesty, so that over the next 5 years we
move the date up to 1991.
Third, a conservative CBO estimate, even without considering the
``rolling'' provision, puts the cost of the amnesty at $1.4 billion
over 10 years.
Fourth, this provision rewards illegal immigrants who have been the
most effective in evading law enforcement.
What this proposal does not do, and what I think real Latino fairness
would be is:
First, we should increase the number of legal immigrants allowed in
this country annually if such an increase is needed to ensure an
adequate labor supply and greater family unification. This would be a
wise thing to do. It would be a fair thing to do. It would also be the
legal thing to do, compared to what they are trying to do over there.
They are trying to enact a bill that they did not even have the
foresight to bring up on the floor or to file until July 25 of this
year.
Mr. DURBIN. Will the Senator yield?
Mr. HATCH. I only have a limited period of time, so I have to finish
my remarks.
Second, we should expedite INS review of petitions by family members
of citizens. Let's face it, the INS is in a mess right now, and it
could be reformed to expedite the processing of legal immigrants.
Third, we should restore the right of persons allowed amnesty back in
1986 to have their claims adjudicated.
These three changes in law, in contrast to what is proposed today by
our friends on the other side, would be real Latino fairness. It would
reward those who have followed the law and played by the rules.
So this is where we are. The vote we are about to have on suspending
the rules is a ``have it both ways'' vote. My colleagues voted
overwhelmingly for cloture yesterday--including almost all Democrats
and all Republicans. The last time I looked, cloture meant the
inability to consider nongermane amendments.
Today, many of these same persons who voted for cloture are voting to
suspend the results of that vote and allow debate on this unrelated
measure. Tomorrow, they will probably vote for cloture again.
So on Tuesday, the high-tech community gets its vote. On Wednesday,
many of the same group vote to undo their vote, and on Thursday they
vote with high tech again. Oh, it is confusing when you are trying to
have it both ways.
I hope no one will be fooled by what is happening. I urge my
colleagues to oppose suspending the rules, which is an extraordinary
procedural move aimed at playing politics.
I am told that this procedure of suspending the rules has not been
used since 1982. I do not believe it has ever been used in this manner
for crass political purposes and maneuvering. I hope it will be
overwhelmingly rejected. I hope that, once again, we will vote for
cloture on this bill.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that a letter from the Chamber
of Commerce dated September 26, 2000, be printed in the Record.
There being no objection, the letter was ordered to be printed in the
Record, as follows:
U.S. Chamber of Commerce,
Washington, DC, September 26, 2000.
To Members of the United States Senate: On behalf of the
U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the world's largest business
federation representing more than three million businesses
and organizations of every size, sector, and region, I wish
to clarify our position with regard to the current debate on
the H-1B legislation and proposals unrelated to that
legislation concerning legalization of certain workers
already in the United States. During this afternoon's debate
on this issue, there have been misleading statements as to
the Chamber's position on provisions relating to updating the
registry date, restoring section 245(i), and adjustments for
certain Central Americans.
While the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, as part of the
Essential Worker Immigration Coalition, has expressed its
general support for these concepts, it strongly opposes
efforts to amend the pending H-1B legislation with these
provisions. These are completely separate issues and must be
considered separately.
Sincerely,
R. Bruce Josten.
Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, I have heard all this talk on the other
side about how all these people are supporting what they want to do. It
just ``ain't'' true. Let me read this letter dated September 26, 2000:
To Members of the United States Senate: On behalf of the
U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the world's largest business
federation representing more than three million businesses
and organizations of every size, sector, and region, I wish
to clarify our position with regard to the current debate on
the H-1B legislation and proposals unrelated to that
legislation concerning legalization of certain workers
already in the United States. During this afternoon's debate
on this issue, there have been misleading statements as to
the Chamber's position on provisions relating to updating the
registry date, restoring section 245(i), and adjustments for
certain Central Americans.
While the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, as part of the
Essential Worker Immigration Coalition, has expressed its
general support for these concepts, it strongly opposes
efforts to amend the pending H-1B legislation with these
provisions. These are completely separate issues and must be
considered separately.
Sincerely,
R. Bruce Josten.
Executive Vice President Government Affairs.
Mr. President, it is remarkable to say all these organizations
support this type of extraordinary procedural maneuvering. Because when
you really look at what the organizations support, they support a
regular process whereby the committee with jurisdiction holds real
substantive hearings to determine what is right and what is wrong. The
organizations do not support just slamming some bill that would change
our immigration laws wholesale--on the floor at the last minute--for no
other reason than to try to indicate that they are currying favor with
certain groups in this society. In reality this so-called Latino
fairness bill would undermine every one of the people who have come
here legally, have earned their right to be citizens, and have abided
by the rules of this country.
That is just not right. I think this type of procedural maneuvering
and politicking should not occur on something where most everybody in
this body agrees. And we--most everybody--agrees that this bill should
pass.
Mr. President, I ask for the yeas and nays on the pending motion.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there a sufficient second?
There appears to be a sufficient second.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The question is on agreeing to the motion to
suspend the rules in reference to amendment no. 4184. The yeas and nays
have been ordered. The clerk will call the roll.
The assistant legislative clerk called the roll.
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Mr. REID. I announce that the Senator from California (Mrs.
Feinstein), and the Senator from Connecticut (Mr. Lieberman) are
necessarily absent.
The result was announced--yeas 43, nays 55, as follows:
[Rollcall Vote No. 257 Leg.]
YEAS--43
Akaka
Baucus
Bayh
Biden
Bingaman
Boxer
Breaux
Bryan
Cleland
Conrad
Daschle
Dodd
Dorgan
Durbin
Edwards
Feingold
Graham
Harkin
Hollings
Inouye
Johnson
Kennedy
Kerrey
Kerry
Kohl
Landrieu
Lautenberg
Leahy
Levin
Lincoln
Mikulski
Miller
Moynihan
Murray
Reed
Reid
Robb
Rockefeller
Sarbanes
Schumer
Torricelli
Wellstone
Wyden
NAYS--55
Abraham
Allard
Ashcroft
Bennett
Bond
Brownback
Bunning
Burns
Byrd
Campbell
Chafee, L.
Cochran
Collins
Craig
Crapo
DeWine
Domenici
Enzi
Fitzgerald
Frist
Gorton
Gramm
Grams
Grassley
Gregg
Hagel
Hatch
Helms
Hutchinson
Hutchison
Inhofe
Jeffords
Kyl
Lott
Lugar
Mack
McCain
McConnell
Murkowski
Nickles
Roberts
Roth
Santorum
Sessions
Shelby
Smith (NH)
Smith (OR)
Snowe
Specter
Stevens
Thomas
Thompson
Thurmond
Voinovich
Warner
NOT VOTING--2
Feinstein
Lieberman
The PRESIDING OFFICER. On this vote the ayes are 43, the nays are 55.
Two-thirds of the Senators duly chosen not having voted in the
affirmative, the motion is rejected.
Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote, and I move
to lay that motion on the table.
The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
Vote on Amendment No. 4178
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, amendment No. 4201
is agreed to, and amendment No. 4183, as thus amended, is agreed to.
The amendments (Nos. 4201 and 4183) were agreed to.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The question is on agreeing to amendment No.
4178.
Mr. HATCH. I ask for the yeas and nays.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there a sufficient second?
There is a sufficient second.
The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk called the roll.
Mr. REID. I announce that the Senator from California (Mrs.
Feinstein) and the Senator from Connecticut (Mr. Lieberman) are
necessarily absent.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Voinovich). Are there any other Senators
in the Chamber who desire to vote?
The result was announced--yeas 96, nays 2, as follows:
[Rollcall Vote No. 258 Leg.]
YEAS--96
Abraham
Akaka
Allard
Ashcroft
Baucus
Bayh
Bennett
Biden
Bingaman
Bond
Boxer
Breaux
Brownback
Bryan
Bunning
Burns
Byrd
Campbell
Chafee, L.
Cleland
Cochran
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NAYS--2
Hollings
Wellstone
NOT VOTING--2
Feinstein
Lieberman
The amendment (No. 4178) was agreed to.
Mr. LOTT addressed the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The majority leader.
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